Official 2017 Monaco DL Discussion Thread - Oh baby what a meet

Leaving aside all the hyperandrogenism controversy, I'd love to see Semenya batter an 800m race to see just what she is capable of. Unfortunately I feel this won't happen as it'll only worsen the attitude / thoughts towards her & those with similar conditions.

I don't know who writes the meet summaries, but whoever did didn't do their homework. Regarding the US men you wrote as ones who have won a diamond league mid distance/distance event, you left out a couple. Bernard Lagat won the 2 mile at Pre in 2011, and Nick Symmonds won both the 800 at the London and Zurich DLs in 2013. I know you guys struggle with spelling sometimes and that's not a huge deal, but come on letsrun. Get it together!

PrZ wrote:

I don't know who writes the meet summaries, but whoever did didn't do their homework. Regarding the US men you wrote as ones who have won a diamond league mid distance/distance event, you left out a couple. Bernard Lagat won the 2 mile at Pre in 2011, and Nick Symmonds won both the 800 at the London and Zurich DLs in 2013. I know you guys struggle with spelling sometimes and that's not a huge deal, but come on letsrun. Get it together!

I wrote that part and I was aware. Those were not official Diamond League points events, so I did not include them.

Track and Field Maniac comes in clutch with the stream yet again

Welcome

Does anyone know the requested paces for the middle distance events?

That's fine and all but I still want to hear about how he likes Lucerne milk.

Go to the meet program page:

https://monaco.diamondleague.com/en/programme-resultats-monaco-en/#baseFrame#outputs/results/iaaf/atResults/js/mappings/schedule#ScheduleInit#CURRENTEVENT_JSON

Click on the link for the event entries

The pacemaker and requested paces are listed at the bottom of the entries.

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3000m SC: 2000m in 5:16, that is 7:54 pace. Is there really someone in WR shape?

grox wrote:

3000m SC: 2000m in 5:16, that is 7:54 pace. Is there really someone in WR shape?

Probably requested by Conseslus. And he's out for the season.

Mens 1500 pace: 1:52 at 800 (3:30 pace), 2:19 at 1000 (3:28.5 pace)

Womens 800m pace: 55.0, would need a 58.x second lap to get the WR, if Semenya goes for it.

Mens 800m pace, 50.0, in track for around 1:43.

Womens 3000m pace, 1500m in 4:08! Thats 8:16 pace, I think Obiri can do it though.

Men Steeplechase pace 1000m 2:37 (7:51 pace!) 5:16 2000m (7:54) pace. This pace seems kind of suicidal, unless someone is feeling the WR. Jaeger would be the most likely canidate for a fast time, but he seems to be smarter than to ask for that pace. Maybe Kipruto asked for it?

As for the likely hood of pacemakers doing their job, I'll say 70% in the mens 1500m, 80% in the womens 800m, 90% chance in the mens 800m (Som is a great pacemaker), Womens 3000m 35% chance ( unless it's Meadows pace making the womens pacing on the diamond league is horrible)

Mens Steeplechase, 5% chance, every time this event has been run this year it has horribly paced, with suicidal first kilometers, follwed by huge drop offs the second kilometer and Sadly this one seems to be set up no different. I hope Jaeger can run fast though.

1'52.0 is nonsense pace !!!

track record is 3'26.6 & there has been a 3'27+ & bucket loads of 3'28s

to offer rubbish 3'30 pace kills off time

Silas when he ran 3'27.64 off trip on 1st lap & execrable 1'52+ ran most incredible last 700 in synthetic track era !!!

probably 3'25-mid/high if he'd run it for clocking rather than win & attempted to follow 1'50+ pacer

the logical conclusion is that if pacer goes thru in 56 / 1'52.0, the best even a 3'25.5 / 3'25.75 guy can possibly do off that is

~ 3'27.5

the pacing target has neutered possible final clocking

if we see 1'52.0 off some evenish pace & 3'27.5 win, the intrinsic worth off "proper" 55.0 / 1'50 is ~ 3'25-mid/high

hassan i estimate is in 1'56-high shape & she wouda run it recently if not for huge amount extra on bends & poor pace judgement

Ajee is capable of ~1'56.0 based on that huge -ve split win in trials

she however needs route-1 & 57.0/59.0 which is hard to see

Korir looked damned tired in trials win at altitude

his 1'43.7+ in ncaa meet off huge -ve splits was worth ~ 1'42.0 off 2s +ve splits with 6'3 pacer not the "height-impacted" one he got

brutal long season for him already

1'43-low woud be pretty good right now

i don't think he has energy left right now

if he had limited his number of runs this year, he wouda been looking this time of year based off that early season 1'43.7 at

~ 1'41-low/mid

is this a joke?

drivel, sniffle, burp, idiot, fart, intrinsic

joke, fart, basic, ~ 1'41.05, ~5m wide!!!!

gag on jim ryuns ~ 3'24, gurrple slurp drivel

calculo wrote:

Dilusional Idiot wrote:Mens 1500 pace: 1:52 at 800 (3:30 pace), 2:19 at 1000 (3:28.5 pace)

1'52.0 is nonsense pace !!!

track record is 3'26.6 & there has been a 3'27+ & bucket loads of 3'28s

to offer rubbish 3'30 pace kills off time

Silas when he ran 3'27.64 off trip on 1st lap & execrable 1'52+ ran most incredible last 700 in synthetic track era !!!

probably 3'25-mid/high if he'd run it for clocking rather than win & attempted to follow 1'50+ pacer

the logical conclusion is that if pacer goes thru in 56 / 1'52.0, the best even a 3'25.5 / 3'25.75 guy can possibly do off that is

~ 3'27.5

the pacing target has neutered possible final clocking

if we see 1'52.0 off some evenish pace & 3'27.5 win, the intrinsic worth off "proper" 55.0 / 1'50 is ~ 3'25-mid/high

So what are you going to say when they go out in 1:52 and only finish in 3:30/3:31? There is no 3:25 guy in the field. There never has been, and no one is in WR shape right now. 3:30 pace is more than reasonable for 800.

he will do his usual nonsense and say something like this

is this a joke?

insane first ~ 15m, that is worth 1.54 seconds basic

moron (then quote someone)

~ 5 meters wide first bend, intrinsic barf gurgle fart!

you idiot you are new to the sport? (quote someone else) then post some video to "prove" he is right

IS THIS A JOKE! (by now he will be getting angry)

intrinsic! drivel! ~ 3'24.89! jim ryun, Lord Coe, ~1'39+/- basic gargle snurff moron

then finish with some bullsh*t about how the run in perfect mythical fantasy conditions and pace was worth

~ 3'25.69!!!

Just read the LetsRun meet preview again & got all fired up. Maybe a bit too optimistic with predictions, maybe not? Should be awesome either way.

alone at work, this is perfect

All righty, T&F Maniac, let's get this show on the road :-)