In the Q&A on the homepage Jager says he reads Letsrun and the forums. Says he quit coming on here for a while because half of us thought he was doping.
Hopefully with this thread title, he'll read it.
Good luck Evan! Half of my friends don't think you're doping. I'm rooting for you even more since you come on here. Keep kicking ass.
Great interview.
Kudos to Evan for being so open.
Very likable guy.
plentify wrote:
In the Q&A on the homepage Jager says he reads Letsrun and the forums. Says he quit coming on here for a while because half of us thought he was doping.
Hopefully with this thread title, he'll read it.
Good luck Evan! Half of my friends don't think you're doping. I'm rooting for you even more since you come on here. Keep kicking ass.
Most people are jaded and think that any high level athlete that can perform at that level is doing something to get an advantage.
To me some (at least half) pro runners, like cyclists, are straight cheating by doping. the rest are doing all kinds of things like thyroid meds, massive amounts or corticosteroids and other "legal" drugs to hammer training daily that most regular college, HS, or hobby joggers dont do.
Is that cheating?
Podcast Q&A recap is here unless you missed it:
Links to listen as well.
Best American distance runner, hands-down.
Absolutely courageous.
Get that 7:5x and take gold in London, Evan - at the same time.
I like that Jager called into the podcast and that more athletes are admitting to the awesomeness that is LetsRun.com. We haven't had much reason to doubt that Evan and Jerry are likely keeping it clean and the hacked report shouldn't be too much cause for alarm in regards to them.
What I do want to add, though, expands upon some caveats I tried to give the BroJos and other journalists just a few weeks ago. Everybody claims they aren't doping when asked. They'll invite you into their homes. They'll agree to interviews. They'll say and do what they need to do to eliminate suspicion. While I think that Jager is probably clean and a very likable guy, I'm extremely sad that he and his whole team have a tendency to be social hermits. I'd rather our top stars participated with LetsRun.com during the normal course of events because they loved connecting with more people involved in the sport, not just because they want to use this one opportunity to save face. The guy loses a few points in my esteem for only being so publicly transparent in order to defend a drug charge. He can do penance by continuing to call into LetsRun.com for other purposes than defending his drug charge.
I think it's fairly regular to visit Letsrun for track and field athletes of any skill level.
It provides a ton of really helpful results information outside of the banter of the forums.
My college coach was adamant about staying away from Letsrun, mostly posting, but I never had any problem admitting to teammates that I was on everyday. I love the sport too much not to follow it closely and this is the place to get the goods.
Shoebacca wrote:
I like that Jager called into the podcast and that more athletes are admitting to the awesomeness that is LetsRun.com. We haven't had much reason to doubt that Evan and Jerry are likely keeping it clean and the hacked report shouldn't be too much cause for alarm in regards to them.
What I do want to add, though, expands upon some caveats I tried to give the BroJos and other journalists just a few weeks ago. Everybody claims they aren't doping when asked. They'll invite you into their homes. They'll agree to interviews. They'll say and do what they need to do to eliminate suspicion. While I think that Jager is probably clean and a very likable guy, I'm extremely sad that he and his whole team have a tendency to be social hermits. I'd rather our top stars participated with LetsRun.com during the normal course of events because they loved connecting with more people involved in the sport, not just because they want to use this one opportunity to save face. The guy loses a few points in my esteem for only being so publicly transparent in order to defend a drug charge. He can do penance by continuing to call into LetsRun.com for other purposes than defending his drug charge.
He and the rest of the BTC are very active on social media. I live in Park City a better part of each year; and I have been fortunate enough to be on the track at Utah U at the same time that they've been there. In my experience, all of them are phenomenal people, Coach Schumacher included. They go out of their way to share the track, as well as be friendly. I get the distinct sense that they're a true team, complete with multiple personalities, and clearly support each other's efforts. I'll cheer them on any chance I get.
Evan if you're reading this, can you please get rid of your stupid man bun and go back to the long, luscious hair?
Friluftsliv wrote:
Shoebacca wrote:I like that Jager called into the podcast and that more athletes are admitting to the awesomeness that is LetsRun.com. We haven't had much reason to doubt that Evan and Jerry are likely keeping it clean and the hacked report shouldn't be too much cause for alarm in regards to them.
What I do want to add, though, expands upon some caveats I tried to give the BroJos and other journalists just a few weeks ago. Everybody claims they aren't doping when asked. They'll invite you into their homes. They'll agree to interviews. They'll say and do what they need to do to eliminate suspicion. While I think that Jager is probably clean and a very likable guy, I'm extremely sad that he and his whole team have a tendency to be social hermits. I'd rather our top stars participated with LetsRun.com during the normal course of events because they loved connecting with more people involved in the sport, not just because they want to use this one opportunity to save face. The guy loses a few points in my esteem for only being so publicly transparent in order to defend a drug charge. He can do penance by continuing to call into LetsRun.com for other purposes than defending his drug charge.
He and the rest of the BTC are very active on social media. I live in Park City a better part of each year; and I have been fortunate enough to be on the track at Utah U at the same time that they've been there. In my experience, all of them are phenomenal people, Coach Schumacher included. They go out of their way to share the track, as well as be friendly. I get the distinct sense that they're a true team, complete with multiple personalities, and clearly support each other's efforts. I'll cheer them on any chance I get.
+1.
The guys and gals of BTC are pretty active on social media. I follow most all of them on Twitter and see stuff from them on an almost daily basis. Some more than others naturally.
I just don't know what else they could do on social media to combat the fans from thinking they are doping. As far as I know, no one ever associated with Coach Schumacher has ever been busted for doping. There has never been anything fishy within their camp that I have heard that would make you think they are associated with the 'GRAY' area.
sdfdsfsf wrote:
Evan if you're reading this, can you please get rid of your stupid man bun and go back to the long, luscious hair?
I bet having long hair has cost him at LEAST half a second in every race (even in man bun form)
There's substantial variation in blood testing during training and racing, so my suspicion is that the ABP is BS.
Shoebacca wrote:
While I think that Jager is probably clean and a very likable guy, I'm extremely sad that he and his whole team have a tendency to be social hermits. I'd rather our top stars participated with LetsRun.com during the normal course of events because they loved connecting with more people involved in the sport, not just because they want to use this one opportunity to save face. The guy loses a few points in my esteem for only being so publicly transparent in order to defend a drug charge. He can do penance by continuing to call into LetsRun.com for other purposes than defending his drug charge.
Evan didn't randomly call into our show. We reached out to him and he said he'd do it. First time we've reached out for him to ask, and he accepted.
I've asked him about drugs/supplements in the past. Some athletes don't like talking about it, but others are fine.
Maybe we at LetsRun should be more active in doing podcasts with athletes.
OfficialRCS wrote:
Best American distance runner, hands-down.
Absolutely courageous.
Get that 7:5x and take gold in London, Evan - at the same time.
Please explain how a man who makes his living running in circles is courageous.
When his name is Caster.
Bobby Fish wrote:
OfficialRCS wrote:Best American distance runner, hands-down.
Absolutely courageous.
Get that 7:5x and take gold in London, Evan - at the same time.
Please explain how a man who makes his living running in circles is courageous.
"That's not a Semi-."
Velociraptor wrote:
When his name is Caster.
Bobby Fish wrote:Please explain how a man who makes his living running in circles is courageous.
wejo wrote:
Shoebacca wrote:While I think that Jager is probably clean and a very likable guy, I'm extremely sad that he and his whole team have a tendency to be social hermits. I'd rather our top stars participated with LetsRun.com during the normal course of events because they loved connecting with more people involved in the sport, not just because they want to use this one opportunity to save face. The guy loses a few points in my esteem for only being so publicly transparent in order to defend a drug charge. He can do penance by continuing to call into LetsRun.com for other purposes than defending his drug charge.
Evan didn't randomly call into our show. We reached out to him and he said he'd do it. First time we've reached out for him to ask, and he accepted.
I've asked him about drugs/supplements in the past. Some athletes don't like talking about it, but others are fine.
Maybe we at LetsRun should be more active in doing podcasts with athletes.
I was in Flagstaff a couple weeks ago and the way some of the training groups are structured, you would have to be a super secretive MF to dope and the other guys not know about it. You are pretty much right on top of each other 24/7. Basically all you have is running gear and perhaps a pair of jeans, all of your vitamins and sups are out in the open and those training groups receive the most random AD visits in the world. For those who have never been to Flag, it's pretty much running nirvana. Hundreds of miles (yes, hundreds) of manicured trails were it rarely gets too hot and almost no humidity. In July, you can still see snow capped mountains in the background. Anybody can jump into a run with some of best endurance athletes in the world which also include skiers, mountain bikers and triathletes as well.
Doping is not a popular discussion, no body likes talking about it. What I will tell you from one athlete is that for a clean athlete who lives like a monk and punishes their everyday to be called out on Letsrun as a doper is devastating. I know the LR MB is an open forum, but it would be cool if a poster could be called out in an official way when they just arbitrarily call certain elites out as dopers. Clean athletes really-really hate that.
Truly amazing what a good liar he is. But hey, just "be nice" and act likable and everything will get swept under the rug, right? What a terrible lie to claim altitude was the reason for his messed up blood results. Right, because everyone at altitude has tested positive for drugs.
yo Evan, you're a chill dude. Please don't listen to these Neanderthals on the board, reasonable people don't think you're doping.
If Evan is really doping we should just shut this whole sport down and talk about stuff that isn't fake like PNSO.
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