That's 100% how it was meant. Lapped Miler is a reliable Hunter fan.
That's 100% how it was meant. Lapped Miler is a reliable Hunter fan.
Just Paul wrote:
Oh, stop. This place will be touting how he's "done" when he runs 3:40 in some race next week. It's a fickle, uneducated crowd here.
You must be new here. Hunter was marked as DONE when he finished HS; as often happens to HS phenoms.
Cicirunner wrote:
Guys chill, the race was short. My guess... ~1440m.
You are confusing your exaggeration of your peepee size with real measurements.
Lapped Miler wrote:
For what it's worth -- and we all know that a final time isn't a measure of the talent or the nature of a particular competition (such as in the Olympic 1500m final last year) -- Drew's 3rd place 3:36.77 today would have also placed him 3rd in the Diamond League 1500m in Rabat.
Here are the top four from Rabat:
Rank Name Nat Date of Birth Result Order
1 AKACHAB Brahim MAR 9 MAR 1993 6 3:35.03 PB
2 EL KAAM Fouad MAR 27 MAY 1988 4 3:36.26
3 ESSALHI Younés MAR 20 FEB 1993 8 3:36.90
4 LETTING Vincent KEN 16 JUN 1993 7 3:37.96 SB
not all events at diamond league meets are diamond league events. This is a clear example of that.
Stick in the Mud wrote:
Oh, stop. Just Paul, you're "done" as a worthwhile poster.
People are celebrating a great performance today, with enthusiasm and hope for the future. Naturally, nobody can know what tomorrow brings for Drew.
So crawl back under your rock, Just Paul, and scowl away.
Telling it like it is, tough guy.
Misinformed wrote:
You are mistaken Lapped Miler. Drew was well within the age limit of a high school athlete...September baby...not sure why this is even an issue anymore...??? My guess is that if Drew were to medal someday in the Oly's or WC, you would bring the age limit up...so sad...and misinformed.
Uh, Misinformed, you read my post wrong. Mind you, I didn't make it any easier on you, because I screwed up the quote function -- probably by erroneously deleting the [/quote], which would have graphically set apart that hissy bitching about Drew's age from "old man at a young age", which started off my post.
So you thought that I was doing the age limit bitching, when it was that "old man at a young age" schmuck.
I agree fully with you. As I wrote, everything about Drew's high school career was legitimate. Everything, age included. Everything. He graduated at the age of 18 as a legitimate member of his senior class.
He ran an excellent race today, which bodes well for the future. But as he himself recognizes, that future lies with the 5000 and not the 1500. And I'm sure Tinman understands that the faster he can run for 1500 in the next two years, the greater his 5000 prospects will be.
Lapped Miler wrote:
Uh, Misinformed, you read my post wrong. Mind you, I didn't make it any easier on you, because I screwed up the quote function -- probably by erroneously deleting the
, which would have graphically set apart that hissy bitching about Drew's age from "old man at a young age", which started off my post.
So you thought that I was doing the age limit bitching, when it was that "old man at a young age" schmuck.[/quote]
Wrong again, he was right. The guy you were criticizing was posting in support of Hunter and his age, saying he's right in there with the others. thus you are the schmuck who's doing the hissy bitching.
Are we so sure that his future lies in the 5000? What has he ever showed to suggest that it is, other than ungainly form and unproven top-end speed (1:48 as a high schooler after a single serious attempt isn't exactly awful)? He's raced 3000s fairly frequently and hasn't run relatively better than his 1500/mile results. He's only raced a 5000 once. Granted, he ran a tactical 13:50, but even so, he only close in about 59, hardly evidence that the race was incredibly easy for him.
In any event, 3:36 as a 19 y/o is a fantastic result. That he beat Nick Willis and lost to Souleiman by .02 is even better. I hope and expect Hunter to have a successful career. I'm just not so sure it's going to be in the 5000.
Lapped Miler wrote:
For what it's worth -- and we all know that a final time isn't a measure of the talent or the nature of a particular competition (such as in the Olympic 1500m final last year) -- Drew's 3rd place 3:36.77 today would have also placed him 3rd in the Diamond League 1500m in Rabat.
Here are the top four from Rabat:
Rank Name Nat Date of Birth Result Order
1 AKACHAB Brahim MAR 9 MAR 1993 6 3:35.03 PB
2 EL KAAM Fouad MAR 27 MAY 1988 4 3:36.26
3 ESSALHI Younés MAR 20 FEB 1993 8 3:36.90
4 LETTING Vincent KEN 16 JUN 1993 7 3:37.96 SB
The 1500m wasn't a Diamond League event.
what is short is wrote:
Cicirunner wrote:Guys chill, the race was short. My guess... ~1440m.
You are confusing your exaggeration of your peepee size with real measurements.
I'll assume that you're talking about the ~1440m length...
Cut the theatrics and tell us wrote:
This is the biggest PR for Hunter since he first broke 4 in high school. It's been a lot of incrementalism since then (3:58...3:57....lower 3:57....3:56...1500 equivalent of 3:55 high...) now this, the equivalent of 3:54.1, and almost the world standard! Great for him. Hope he keeps the ball rolling!
Also, thank god it looks like he's actually better than Jakob Ingebrigsten.
Weretaw Eshete (eth) 3.40.97 is only 17 years old. He ran 3:37 4 days ago!
Lignano Sabbiadoro (Italy), 12.7.2017
1.500m 1 Jonathan Kiplimo Sawe (ken) 3.36.80; 2 Jordan Williamsz (aus) 3.36.97; 3 Tamas Kazi (hun) 3.37.41; 4 Weretaw Eshete (eth) 3.37.77; 5 Trevor Dunbar (usa) 3.38.40; 6 Joao Bussotti 3.38.69; 7 Soufiane El Kabbouri 3.40.00; 8 Mohad Abdikadar 3.40.67; 9 Adam Pyke (aus) 3.41.21; 10 Marco Pettenazzo 3.41.53; 11 Daniel Winn (gbr) 3.49.20
While it's unfair to athletes like Weretaw Eshete, who for all I know might well be 17, the ages of east African athletes simply cannot be taken at face value. I'm sure Eshete is young, possibly even as young as Hunter, but any age up to 24 would not surprise me in the least. Regardless of his age, 3:37 is a good time no matter what.
Yep...I re-read...my bad Lapped Miler!
Lapped Miler wrote:
Cicirunner wrote:Guys chill, the race was short. My guess... ~1440m.
NO! The race was long. My guess... ~1510m.
Or maybe the race was 1500m.
I'm guessing the race was 1500 meters, but that he probably ran 1500 meters or centimeters to meters just over 1500 meters
Gahshshah wrote:
Yes, that's a PR. That's only 0.27 seconds slower than Cheserek PB now.
Clearly, going pro was the right decision for him.
Good thing he went pro. Otherwise he would have 4 years of losing to a guy who is two months younger than him. Can't have that.
old man at a young age wrote:
Too bad he was old for high school. He would be the #2 All time US Junior if he was born 4 months later.
3:36.1 Jim Ryun (Kansas) 07/17/66
3:37.5 Tom Byers (Ohio St) 07/24/74
3:37.9 ————Byers 06/22/74
3:38.26 Alan Webb (Virginia HS) 05/27/01
3:38.50 ————Webb 06/23/01
3:39.00 German Fernandez (Oklahoma St) 06/13/09
3:39.0 ————Ryun (Kansas HS) 06/28/64
3:39.3 ————Ryun 06/04/66
3:39.8 ————Byers 06/28/74
3:40.49 John Trautmann (Georgetown) 05/30/87
I dont know why people on here insist he was old for a high schooler. He has a September birthday. He turned 18 a month into his senior year.
Glad he went pro instead of getting washed up in some D1 school. Can't wait to see him progress over the next decade. Good luck!
old man at a young age wrote:
Too bad he was old for high school. He would be the #2 All time US Junior if he was born 4 months later.
3:36.1 Jim Ryun (Kansas) 07/17/66
3:37.5 Tom Byers (Ohio St) 07/24/74
3:37.9 ————Byers 06/22/74
3:38.26 Alan Webb (Virginia HS) 05/27/01
3:38.50 ————Webb 06/23/01
3:39.00 German Fernandez (Oklahoma St) 06/13/09
3:39.0 ————Ryun (Kansas HS) 06/28/64
3:39.3 ————Ryun 06/04/66
3:39.8 ————Byers 06/28/74
3:40.49 John Trautmann (Georgetown) 05/30/87
You don't even need to go to that list. He would be 7th American on the NCAA list (ahead of Centro, Berryhill, Manzano, Lassiter...) and he is only freshman (or Sophomore) age. Compare him to Slag, Fisher, Maton... Note that Byers, Fernandez, Trautmann never ran as fast in College as Hunter did today.
Great! Now he's as fast as a 16-year old from Norway!