Butthurt detector wrote:
glaringly obvious wrote:Some of the most obvious doping violators are coming out of Botswana and South Africa recently. Why is WADA turning a blind eye?
How is it obvious?
Because they are fast?
Lol.
You can't be that dumb?
Butthurt detector wrote:
glaringly obvious wrote:Some of the most obvious doping violators are coming out of Botswana and South Africa recently. Why is WADA turning a blind eye?
How is it obvious?
Because they are fast?
Lol.
You can't be that dumb?
glaringly obvious wrote:
Butthurt detector wrote:How is it obvious?
Because they are fast?
Lol.
You can't be that dumb?
Don't insult, explain if it's so obvious.
artojas wrote:
Non Medal Lock.
Might not even make the finals in either event.
Fixed
Nick Nax wrote:
MakwalaFan wrote:http://resultados.rfea.es/2017/resultados/airelibre/meeting_madrid/ATR173A_ATM00400450000001ESP.htmHe still has no chance against Van Niekerk, and virtually none against Kerley (unless Kerley is burnt out by finals at Worlds), but if he holds it together he could compete for bronze.
Sibanba and Nkobolo weren't very impressive, although I'm pretty sure Sibanda is coming off an injury.
You just said that Makwala has virtually no chance against Kerley. You must be on drugs because I would argue that running 43.92 on July 14th is a hell of a lot better than running 43.70 on May 26th.
Kerley's season started on December 10th. Catch a clue!
Sub 44 in May is way more impressive than sub 44 by a few hundredths in July. Kelrley is gonna medal, Makwala MIGHT get bronze. I wouldn't even say that he's the best Botswanan right now with Thebe beating him in Lausanne. Kerley is also much sharper with rounds and can jog a low 44 and still perform in a final well.
Too much logic wrote:
glaringly obvious wrote:You can't be that dumb?
Don't insult, explain if it's so obvious.
OMG! Let's just take Botswana for example. The classic signs..Unknown 400 runners all of a sudden setting top world marks, then disappearing for top competitions, 31 year Makwala all of a sudden setting massive personal bests in the 200 and running close to PB in 400 in same meet. No doping control in the country. As their officials say, there are "constraints" for testing.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201512031014.htmlAlready high profile busts
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/18/amantle-montsho-banned-doping-positive-test-glasgow-2014http://www.botswanaguardian.co.bw/sports/item/1683-botswana-s-latest-doping-saga.htmlon and on..
It's not hard to find information, and it's not hard to connect the dots.
PrZ wrote:
Nick Nax wrote:You just said that Makwala has virtually no chance against Kerley. You must be on drugs because I would argue that running 43.92 on July 14th is a hell of a lot better than running 43.70 on May 26th.
Kerley's season started on December 10th. Catch a clue!
Sub 44 in May is way more impressive than sub 44 by a few hundredths in July. Kelrley is gonna medal, Makwala MIGHT get bronze. I wouldn't even say that he's the best Botswanan right now with Thebe beating him in Lausanne. Kerley is also much sharper with rounds and can jog a low 44 and still perform in a final well.
Neither are definitely going to medal. With Kerleys recent 200m performance I'd say Makwala is looking stronger at the moment.
Kerley peaked in June and it is yet to be seen how long he can keep that peak going.
WVN only opened his 400 season in July for a good reason.
very simple ,
the speed peptide igf-1 lr3 ....... does it again.
add to that looks like on very much the same as wayde now
the choosen few getting hands on this speed endurance ped
add that extra few meters at end .
look no further than wada/iaaf , they want to control who dopes
and by controling the peds as best can is how are doing it
still not a mention on speed peptide , can use freely if lucky enough to find it
aduck2022 wrote:
Gobbledygook, conspiracy theory BS, more gobbledygook, PED nonsense, confirmation bias, more gobbledygook
......
Any of you familiar with the name Quincy Watts? That man achieved the Olympic gold in 43.5 after finishing his NCAA season as a senior.
He was specially doped for this event to bring more awareness to the men's 200m.
In what way does a track having six lanes have anything whatsoever to do with the quality of Coe's 800m in Firenze? In what 800m does any runner, after the first turn (or to cones down the straightaway) ever run outside the 2nd lane?
Not to mention the article recently posted here from Botswana that reported Amos missing multiple tests around 2015. The Botswana and South African revolution from 100m to 800m is nothing short of incredible. South Africa's drug lab, probably the only one in southern Africa, was recently de-accredited by WADA. I would highly doubt that these guys are getting tested at all, particularly without notice, during their training periods in South Africa and Botswana. They are running times far beyond anything their compatriots ever did in the past (Fredericks was Namibia, but close enough--and he's the whole male tradition of great Southern African sprinters prior to this onslaught).
Makwala will turn 31 in September. My view is that he likely began cheating after the 2013 season, when he was 27. In the IAAF progression table below, he had a full eight years!! of 400m performances as an adult, starting from just before his 20th birthday, of never running under 45.20 in an event where it is very common to run your best from 20-22. Then all of a sudden in 2014, he drops his time by 1 1/4 seconds. Granted that this was at altitude, as was 2015's 43.72, but now he has run 43.92 in Madrid, far ahead of anyone else in the field, on the same day he ran 19.77. Notice how much he, like WVN, relative to the field, turns it on in the last 100m of the 400m. Steroids and EPO are the most likely, maybe blood doping as well. WVN, coached by his grandmother, nearly breaks 43 last year. Preposterous.
400 METRES VIEW GRAPH
PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE
2017 43.92 Madrid (Moratalaz) 14 JUL
2016 44.85 Roma (Stadio Olimpico) 02 JUN
2015 43.72 La Chaux-de-Fonds (La Charrière) 05 JUL
2014 44.01 La Chaux-de-Fonds (La Charrière) 06 JUL
2013 45.86 La Chaux-de-Fonds (La Charrière) 07 JUL
2012 45.25 Porto Novo 29 JUN
2011 45.63 Orapa 06 AUG
2010 46.07 Nairobi 28 JUL
2010 46.07 Tomblaine 25 JUN
2009 45.56 Bamako 21 APR
2008 45.64 Addis Ababa 02 MAY
2007 47.02 Alger 19 JUL
You can't watch much athletics ifyou think Makwala tirns it on the last 100. He fades as badly as anyone I've seen
There is no great tradition simply because they were banned from competing until relatively recently.
You really think that people are going to engage in a rather "niche" pro sport when the only perspective was to compete against gazelle and cheetahs ? If you look at the birthdate of the current crop of their sprinters, they were all born in the early to mid 1990s ...
That being I also think that there is something fishy going on
HERE'S THE CRAZY PART - Isaac Makwala isn't even the best 400m runner in Botswana!!!
Baboloki Thebe is going to be the next big star from Botswana - he beat Makwala a couple weeks ago AND is 2 years younger than Kerley.
http://thefasttrack.org/home/2017/7/12/who-dat-baboloki-thebe-and-the-botswana-400-crew
Baboloki is going to win gold this year, you heard it here first!
said88 wrote:
wvn future 200m GOAT wrote:Is this the quickest 200/400 double in one day?
QUICKEST 200/400 double in one day? I almost would say it's the ONLY 200/400 doubly in one day (of some significance). Really, when at all has someone run these two events on the same day? I doubt someone has run sub 45 and sub 20.5 on same day.
How many have done it in a career? MJ, Merritt, van Niekerk... I can't think of any others.
He's not even the best wrote:
HERE'S THE CRAZY PART - Isaac Makwala isn't even the best 400m runner in Botswana!!!
Baboloki Thebe is going to be the next big star from Botswana - he beat Makwala a couple weeks ago AND is 2 years younger than Kerley.
http://thefasttrack.org/home/2017/7/12/who-dat-baboloki-thebe-and-the-botswana-400-crewBaboloki is going to win gold this year, you heard it here first!
Baboloki has an outside shot for a bronze medal. That's about the extent of it.
ghastly wrote:
said88 wrote:QUICKEST 200/400 double in one day? I almost would say it's the ONLY 200/400 doubly in one day (of some significance). Really, when at all has someone run these two events on the same day? I doubt someone has run sub 45 and sub 20.5 on same day.
How many have done it in a career? MJ, Merritt, van Niekerk... I can't think of any others.
Apart from Makwala's double (19.96/44.01) in Switzerland in 2014, no one has done it, although MJ was slated for a 200/400 one day double at the same Madrid meet in 1994. If I'm not mistaken, there was a rain delay and Johnson decided to run the 400m only and clocked a 43.90 which is still the meet record.
Makwala-Sibanda- Nigel "dodgy" Amos (Nkobolo)-Thebe
Vs
Norwood-Kerley-Gil "passionate" Roberts-"extenZe" Merritt.
Interesting.
glaringly obvious wrote:
Too much logic wrote:Don't insult, explain if it's so obvious.
OMG! Let's just take Botswana for example. The classic signs..Unknown 400 runners all of a sudden setting top world marks, then disappearing for top competitions, 31 year Makwala all of a sudden setting massive personal bests in the 200 and running close to PB in 400 in same meet. No doping control in the country. As their officials say, there are "constraints" for testing.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201512031014.htmlAlready high profile busts
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/18/amantle-montsho-banned-doping-positive-test-glasgow-2014http://www.botswanaguardian.co.bw/sports/item/1683-botswana-s-latest-doping-saga.htmlon and on..
It's not hard to find information, and it's not hard to connect the dots.
Is anyone surprised that Amantle Montsho was found on something?