Wardian is just there to be seen. In a few months he'll be doing the same slug fest at UTMB.
Wardian is just there to be seen. In a few months he'll be doing the same slug fest at UTMB.
They ever do any testing at these kinds of ultra races?Be curious to know what kind of hematocrits these athletes have
mizuno fanboy wrote:
There's depth in mountain ultrarunning, just not at Hardrock. Check out UTMB later this summer and you'll find a hugely stacked field.
Hardrock has a stupid lottery system in place that makes it difficult for new runners to participate. For this and other reasons, the race has lost some of its appeal.
Regardless, Killian is a beast. And so is Caroline Chaverot.
look at me wrote:
Wardian is just there to be seen. In a few months he'll be doing the same slug fest at UTMB.
I agree. The question is whether people will still want to see him after performances like this.
He's also running a gimmicky marathon in fenway park.
dffffff wrote:
look at me wrote:Wardian is just there to be seen. In a few months he'll be doing the same slug fest at UTMB.
I agree. The question is whether people will still want to see him after performances like this.
He's also running a gimmicky marathon in fenway park.
He's still on the course. If he was just doing this to be seen why spend 30+ hours trekking through some of the most rugged mountain terrain in the lower 48. I give him credit for finishing. I don't think people appreciate how brutal this course is. It makes WS look like a road race.
Still, it's interesting that a guy who can crank out a 2:30 marathon every week will finish hours behind men and women with marathon prs close to 3 hours.
verta wrote:
dffffff wrote:I agree. The question is whether people will still want to see him after performances like this.
He's also running a gimmicky marathon in fenway park.
He's still on the course. If he was just doing this to be seen why spend 30+ hours trekking through some of the most rugged mountain terrain in the lower 48. I give him credit for finishing. I don't think people appreciate how brutal this course is. It makes WS look like a road race.
Still, it's interesting that a guy who can crank out a 2:30 marathon every week will finish hours behind men and women with marathon prs close to 3 hours.
It is interesting but the reason why the others finisher ahead of him is probably that they walk and hike way faster than him and perhaps do not spend as much time at aid stations as him. Right there over 100 miles could be a few hours.
Kilian and Caroline get tested 10-15 times a year, in and out of competition. The same can't be said for American runners, though. US race directors need to pull their heads out of their asses and work for cleab sport instead of slinging mud against ITRA and UTMB.
Killian = 89.5 VO2
This puts him in a league that includes very few endurance athletes.
Wardian is a joke.
verta wrote:
If he was just doing this to be seen why spend 30+ hours trekking through some of the most rugged mountain terrain in the lower 48. I give him credit for finishing. I don't think people appreciate how brutal this course is. It makes WS look like a road race.
Still, it's interesting that a guy who can crank out a 2:30 marathon every week will finish hours behind men and women with marathon prs close to 3 hours.
Because the ultrarunning lovefest takes pride in finishing and the social media generated from it, regardless of how slow. Mike knows it and is milking it for all it's worth. You prove the point.
look at me wrote:
verta wrote:If he was just doing this to be seen why spend 30+ hours trekking through some of the most rugged mountain terrain in the lower 48. I give him credit for finishing. I don't think people appreciate how brutal this course is. It makes WS look like a road race.
Still, it's interesting that a guy who can crank out a 2:30 marathon every week will finish hours behind men and women with marathon prs close to 3 hours.
Because the ultrarunning lovefest takes pride in finishing and the social media generated from it, regardless of how slow. Mike knows it and is milking it for all it's worth. You prove the point.
Wouldn't he have gotten even more attention if he had just won the race? How hard can it be to beat a bunch of 3 and 4 hour marathoners?
He wasted an extra 10 hours walking when he could have finished up and gone on to his next event.
And pigs fly wrote:
[quote]old shady wrote:
. Shows complete lack of depth of the athletes in this sport.
The "lack of depth" is caused by 99% of letsrun posters being too AFRAID to even try a race as difficult as this one. They think running around a track a few times is difficult. Those 5 minute miles turn into 20 minute miles when you get halfway up a 5,000 ft climb.
look at me wrote:
Because the ultrarunning lovefest takes pride in finishing and the social media generated from it, regardless of how slow. Mike knows it and is milking it for all it's worth. You prove the point.
I actually am impressed when relatively out of shape or fat people etc. struggle for 5 hours to finish a marathon. I assume that for their level of fitness they are pushing themselves that whole time, and I would hate to push myself hard for 5 hours of running. I don't really want to run longer than 2 hours and even that I don't want to do very often. So, when I hear about people doing these races where they push themselves for 24-48 hours! Yes, I am impressed and I don't care where they finish. Again, mostly because I imagine pushing myself for that long to just be brutal. So, anyone who actually goes out and runs something like Hardrock, and especially those who take close to 48 hours to do it, I'm impressed at your will power. Well done.
Post reported. WAY too positive and supportive.
I'm impressed wrote:
look at me wrote:Because the ultrarunning lovefest takes pride in finishing and the social media generated from it, regardless of how slow. Mike knows it and is milking it for all it's worth. You prove the point.
I actually am impressed when relatively out of shape or fat people etc. struggle for 5 hours to finish a marathon. I assume that for their level of fitness they are pushing themselves that whole time, and I would hate to push myself hard for 5 hours of running. I don't really want to run longer than 2 hours and even that I don't want to do very often. So, when I hear about people doing these races where they push themselves for 24-48 hours! Yes, I am impressed and I don't care where they finish. Again, mostly because I imagine pushing myself for that long to just be brutal. So, anyone who actually goes out and runs something like Hardrock, and especially those who take close to 48 hours to do it, I'm impressed at your will power. Well done.
http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Michael&lname=Wardiancrunch wrote:
look at me wrote:Because the ultrarunning lovefest takes pride in finishing and the social media generated from it, regardless of how slow. Mike knows it and is milking it for all it's worth. You prove the point.
Wouldn't he have gotten even more attention if he had just won the race? How hard can it be to beat a bunch of 3 and 4 hour marathoners?
He wasted an extra 10 hours walking when he could have finished up and gone on to his next event.
Mike is a talent at the marathon - but he's never been a national class ultra guy - and certainly not at the 100 mile distance.
No he isn't, he is good at what he does in marathons. This is not his forte, this race involves ability to run well on long dangerous uneven descents, walk with authority and strength uphill and be able to deal with high altitude and not have stomach issues for 25-30 hours.
And to credit to him - I should define ultra it as mountain trail ultra. Mike has a few impressive, elite road ultra performances, I'm pretty sure.
If you like Mike, you can check out his blog:
LetstalkaboutME.com
Check out his website wrote:
If you like Mike, you can check out his blog:
LetstalkaboutME.com
Who do you talk about on your blog? Your mom?
Team Salomon's manager Greg Vollet has doping sanctions against him personally. He is not allowed to run in certain US races because of that history.And who is doing these "10-15 tests" a year exactly?
mizuno fanboy wrote:
Kilian and Caroline get tested 10-15 times a year, in and out of competition. The same can't be said for American runners, though. US race directors need to pull their heads out of their asses and work for cleab sport instead of slinging mud against ITRA and UTMB.
Just don't be cynical for once wrote:
I don't even know why I come here anymore.
You're not alone.
This place is off the scale for retard trolls.