Victor Conte: Circumventing testing easy as taking candy from a baby

Inquiry minds want to know wrote:

No doorbell wrote:

It's all relative: two "missed" (better: evaded) tests per year: no ban. Two positive tests: 2 + 4 years. Unless you ate something or kissed someone.

3 missed tests in 12 months: 1 year ban.

3 positive tests: 2 + 4 years plus lifetime. Unless...

Easy to see why most athletes don't get caught.

So, if Sumgong avoided the OOC test that nailed her, all would have been well & good?

Avoiding a test is not what you do. Seems like she couldn't afford the bribe to never test positive... and she failed the IQ test. Kind of a terrible combination.

casual obsever wrote:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-sumgong-idUSKBN1782Y7

"The athlete tested positive for EPO (Erythropoietin) following a no-notice test conducted by the IAAF in Kenya.

"This was part of an enhanced IAAF out-of-competition testing program dedicated to elite marathon runners which is supported by the Abbott World Marathon Majors group."

But yes, she would have been better off, had she not heard the doorbell. Maybe she opened the door because she was expecting mail? Or the tester stood all of a sudden in front of her in the training camp? Or she hoped she wouldn't glow anymore?

Well from what I gathered 3 months ago when she was caught the Abbott WMMs decided to create their own pool of elite marathoners and test them for IAAF themselves.

"Or she hoped she wouldn't glow anymore" Hilarious, 👽

casual obsever wrote:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-sumgong-idUSKBN1782Y7

"The athlete tested positive for EPO (Erythropoietin) following a no-notice test conducted by the IAAF in Kenya.

"This was part of an enhanced IAAF out-of-competition testing program dedicated to elite marathon runners which is supported by the Abbott World Marathon Majors group."

But yes, she would have been better off, had she not heard the doorbell. Maybe she opened the door because she was expecting mail? Or the tester stood all of a sudden in front of her in the training camp? Or she hoped she wouldn't glow anymore?

Nice pic of her proudly holding that Olympic gold. I bet she's thinking; "Hey Canova...EPO does work with top Kenyans!" 😄

Rocket Fuel Rick wrote:

casual obsever wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-sumgong-idUSKBN1782Y7

"The athlete tested positive for EPO (Erythropoietin) following a no-notice test conducted by the IAAF in Kenya.

"This was part of an enhanced IAAF out-of-competition testing program dedicated to elite marathon runners which is supported by the Abbott World Marathon Majors group."

But yes, she would have been better off, had she not heard the doorbell. Maybe she opened the door because she was expecting mail? Or the tester stood all of a sudden in front of her in the training camp? Or she hoped she wouldn't glow anymore?

Nice pic of her proudly holding that Olympic gold. I bet she's thinking; "Hey Canova...EPO does work with top Kenyans!" 😄

She must be a Kenyan with a weak mind, only they benefit from EPO. 😁

You guys are hilarious.

Here is another one for you, Subway, on IAAFs page for Rita Jeptoo's results (link on the bottom right):

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/kenya/rita-jeptoo-sitienei-132798

"Jeptoo breaks course record with third Boston victory"

IAAF realized that there she was obviously clean, for it was her PR, and only *thereafter* EPO slowed her down. After all, experts claimed that to be the case on letsrun!

Not just kenyans, `Mericans doin it too... lol

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

casual obsever wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sport-doping-sumgong-idUSKBN1782Y7

"The athlete tested positive for EPO (Erythropoietin) following a no-notice test conducted by the IAAF in Kenya.

"This was part of an enhanced IAAF out-of-competition testing program dedicated to elite marathon runners which is supported by the Abbott World Marathon Majors group."

But yes, she would have been better off, had she not heard the doorbell. Maybe she opened the door because she was expecting mail? Or the tester stood all of a sudden in front of her in the training camp? Or she hoped she wouldn't glow anymore?

Well from what I gathered 3 months ago when she was caught the Abbott WMMs decided to create their own pool of elite marathoners and test them for IAAF themselves.

Notice Sumgong looks alot like Calypso from Pirates of the Caribbean.

Interesting imo things from Conte:

started testing blood and urine to provide athletes with specific nutrition vitamin/ diet plans with this vpi test in the 80s, Alberto Salazar was the first to come see me.

Guy linked to balco from Texas AM who distributed drugs all around track and field changed his name and has been seen working with team Jamaica.

When their drug called "the clear" was discovered they had another drug waiting and they kept going.

Testosterone butt pellets that slowly release

Gatlins 2006 bust details: his test ratio was way low, but they were able to i.d. what the testosterone replacement supplement was.

Provigil is like Adderall but different, used by lots of athletes, fighter pilots, military. First drug Kelly white was busted with.

Look at the long list of athletes who are currently on suspension or the much longer list of athletes who have been busted in the last decade and then tell me it's easy to dope.

Well, several hundred athletes admitted to doping in the Tubingen study, and less than one tenth got caught.

In other words, over 90% of the dopers got away with it. So yes, it is easy to do.

Are you serious????? TIP of the iceberg, newbie! This naivety is a growing problem in Track and Field.

TrackCoach wrote:

Look at the long list of athletes who are currently on suspension or the much longer list of athletes who have been busted in the last decade and then tell me it's easy to dope.

Provigil is awesome, btw.

fasdfadsfadsf wrote:

Are you serious?????

TIP of the iceberg, newbie! This naivety is a growing problem in Track and Field.

TrackCoach wrote:

Look at the long list of athletes who are currently on suspension or the much longer list of athletes who have been busted in the last decade and then tell me it's easy to dope.

+1

Too easy wrote:

Well, several hundred athletes admitted to doping in the Tubingen study, and less than one tenth got caught.

In other words, over 90% of the dopers got away with it. So yes, it is easy to do.

Background info on the study:

https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/news-parliament-2015/tubingen-blood-doping-coe-response-15-16/

https://www.uni-tuebingen.de/en/newsfullview-landingpage/article/grundsaetzliches-einverstaendnis-der-wada-zur-veroeffentlichung-der-tuebinger-doping-studie.html

exthrower wrote:

[quote]Boilermakrtpro wrote:

Athletes evade WADA all the f'ing time, and for good reason;-)

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/UPDATE--Kaliese-Spencer-charged-with-WADA-whereabouts-violation

Note the muscularity, the flat chest and the masculinization of the face? All side effects of steroids...[/quote

Physical appearance and performance along do not equal doping; some women naturally have boyish qualities and can run fast. With that said, when your appearance and performance changes drastically in season and you come from a nation with questionable testing practice...perhaps that equals doping.

TrackCoach wrote:

Look at the long list of athletes who are currently on suspension or the much longer list of athletes who have been busted in the last decade and then tell me it's easy to dope.

Hi rekrunner!

Lord coe my ass

fasdfadsfadsf wrote:

Background info on the study:

https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/news-parliament-2015/tubingen-blood-doping-coe-response-15-16/https://www.uni-tuebingen.de/en/newsfullview-landingpage/article/grundsaetzliches-einverstaendnis-der-wada-zur-veroeffentlichung-der-tuebinger-doping-studie.html

Old news, but yeah: we gotta get rid of Coe, or it will get worse and worse.