Edward Cheserek Is Working On His US Citizenship, But It May Take 5+ Years

Haha, for a room. It's in LA and he was there with another guy for a "meeting," so honestly it could've been related to turning pro or something like that.

Does he have a green card or not? Can someone answer that?

That is a key issue. If yes then he has no real concerns vis-a-vis deportation or living here, working, etc.

If no, it's a lot more complicated and I would guess he would either apply for a h1b/opt. Or go to grad school maybe?

Shame on all involved if this has not been priority #1.

Illinoisphotographer wrote:

luv2run wrote:

It should also be noted that the Army is looking into changing its policy for rewarding non-US citizens with citizenship. That makes WCAP even less appealing.

Finally.

Then time from when the Army "looks into something" to actual changes can take decades.

The Army has been "looking into" getting rid of the M4 for about a decade now..

An easier path to citizenship is a necessary recruiting tool for niche jobs.

Changes I could see. Completing getting rid of it won't ever happen.

Alan

I disagree that an easier path is a requirement for niche jobs. Running is not a job. And any real job should be given to a qualified American or Americans should be trained to do it.

Niche jobs for foreigners means "people that will work for less pay" not that are more qualified...in nearly all cases. How many college grads, PhDs etc do American universities turn out annually? (Hint: A lot)

Still,I agree that Chez, if eligible, should be, and should have been hellbent on getting in wcap. It's the deal of a lifetime.

Sounds to me like he has no plan, which is sad.

asdfasdf wrote:

Unless you're married to a U.S. citizen, you have to reside continuously in the U.S. for five years after you become a LPR before you're eligible for naturalization.

So Chez should probably stop worrying about training and focus on hooking up with chicks right?

PR firm wrote:

Does he have a green card or not? Can someone answer that?

That is a key issue. If yes then he has no real concerns vis-a-vis deportation or living here, working, etc.

If no, it's a lot more complicated and I would guess he would either apply for a h1b/opt. Or go to grad school maybe?

Shame on all involved if this has not been priority #1.

I expect that now that the LRC MB has publicized his plight, planeloads of immigration attorneys are flying to Eugene overnight to secure him as a client on Friday morning.

Here's a few questions that this thread has raised in my mind:

1) Can someone with a green card qualify for and compete at OT marathon? Or do you need to be a citizen? I appreciate that you could not qualify to compete at the actual OG, but could you do the trials?

2) Can someone with a green card work wherever they like? Do they really have "no real concerns vis-a-vis deportation or living here, working, etc."?

If an employer applied for your green card, are you not then tied to said employer somehow?

skin fliutist wrote:

I disagree that an easier path is a requirement for niche jobs. Running is not a job. And any real job should be given to a qualified American or Americans should be trained to do it.

Niche jobs for foreigners means "people that will work for less pay" not that are more qualified...in nearly all cases. How many college grads, PhDs etc do American universities turn out annually? (Hint: A lot)

Still,I agree that Chez, if eligible, should be, and should have been hellbent on getting in wcap. It's the deal of a lifetime.

Sounds to me like he has no plan, which is sad.

- Agree, Chez either had no plan or failed-to-execute ... I also find it fascinating that many posters blame folks from his NJ HS or Oregon for "dropping the ball" on his citizenship package. Whatever happened to individual responsibility? Furthermore, I find it fascinating that folks indirectly characterize our immigration policy ... between HS & college, our nation's provided a Kenyan citizen with a PHENOMENAL High School & College education package. By now, Chez should have figured it out ....

- WCAP: the biggest immigration scam this nation has going ... guarantee not one of these soldiers could pass a Civics Test ... hold their breath for 3 months of basic training in a highly structured environment & you are now eligible for citizenship. These guys are welcome to serve, but not offered citizenship until they complete their initial enlistment under "honorable conditions."

1) Typicaly the USATF eligibility requirement states you must be US citizen and be eligible to represent the USA (so dual citizens that have represented other countries are also not allowed like Pappas)

2) Yes a green card is practically as good as citizenship (in some ways better) you can't be discriminated against for employment (except ironically when applying for certain jobs with the federal government) and unless you are convicted of felony I don't believe you can be deported, you do need to let them know where you live, but aren't restricted as to where in the United States you do live. One complication is if you leave the USA for an extended period (>1year) you may have complications returning.

Once you have green card you are not beholden to any employer at all, you can be an unemployed bum if you want,

It takes 5 years to even apply for citizenship after you get your card.(unless you get card by marriage then it is 3 years). And it took me about six or seven months to get through the adminstrative process and onto the ceremony.

If Ches doesn't have a card now, even if he married an American Citizen tomorrow it would still be at least 4 years until citizenship.

he's going to have to marry am American because he doesn't have a green card. Sounds like his student visa is over (even if he is still in school his visa would have been based on being on his athletic scholarship)

- Let's face it ... Total Sports US blew it ... Cheserek's in "No-Man's Land": neither nowhere fast enough or politically connected w/AK to make the Kenyan team nor anytime close enough to becoming an American citizen where he has a WAY better opportunity to make the team. He's not "marketable" to the American audience & Total Sports US is trying to painting him as a victim.

harry wales wrote:

Proves that St. Bernard's HS in NJ was recruiting internationally.

He actually went to St. Benedict's Prep which is not a member the NJSIAA and their athletes and teams can't compete in the NJSIAA state championship so it doesn't matter if his school recruits internationally or not.

Lolololol!!!!! Karma!!!!!!

Run for a school that promotes cheating and doping and this what you get. Go back to Kenya you stupid idiot

skin fliutist wrote:

Running is not a job. And any real job should be given to a qualified American or Americans should be trained to do it. .

1) Running is a job -- have you ever heard of a sponsorship contract?

2) You're an a-hole.

Join the military Edward! , US citizen in 6 months.

WilliamnotMary wrote:

Join the military Edward! , US citizen in 6 months.

Or go back to Kenya and use your college degree and other US education to help people there.

- Bump!