What is Andrew Wheating's potential in the 3000m steeplechase?

DNF

Maybe sub-9:30 if he worked at it for a year.

I'm pretty sure Wheating wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as Jager. Jager ran a faster 1500s in 2013, 2014 and 2015. In 2016, he was just .06 seconds slower. Add in the barriers, and I think Wheating would be a lot farther back.

The truth is that Wheating hasn't been Wheating since 2012. Since then, he's been over 3:37 for the 1500 every year; in three of those years, he was over 3:38. His PB's were all set a long time ago, in 2010. He hasn't been anywhere near as fast since.

I'm not dogging on Andy. He's had incredibly bad luck with injuries. It seemed like every time he'd start to get well enough to run seriously, he'd get hurt again. There've been so many I can't remember which was first. Was it the hamstring? the grown? the hip?

Come on lol

What are you smoking? wrote:

I'm pretty sure Wheating wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as Jager. Jager ran a faster 1500s in 2013, 2014 and 2015. In 2016, he was just .06 seconds slower. Add in the barriers, and I think Wheating would be a lot farther back.

The truth is that Wheating hasn't been Wheating since 2012. Since then, he's been over 3:37 for the 1500 every year; in three of those years, he was over 3:38. His PB's were all set a long time ago, in 2010. He hasn't been anywhere near as fast since.

I'm not dogging on Andy. He's had incredibly bad luck with injuries. It seemed like every time he'd start to get well enough to run seriously, he'd get hurt again. There've been so many I can't remember which was first. Was it the hamstring? the grown? the hip?

Unspecified grown injery.

Lack of commitment to consistent training.

Csfvr wrote:

Unspecified grown injery.

Lack of commitment to consistent training.

That was indeed the diagnosis in Eugene: Lack of commitment to consistent training caused by a failure to grown up.

Sticking around Eugene maybe wasn't the best call.

If he ran today? I feel like 8:50-9:00 is a reasonable guess. He's well past the point where making such a change is plausible or even desirable.

What are you smoking? wrote:

I'm pretty sure Wheating wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as Jager.

You're pretty sure? Like, 50-60%? Like, you think it might be probable that the best steeplechaser in American history might be better at the steeplechase than someone who's never run it, whose best events were the 8 and 15, and who hasn't been a factor on the world stage in over half a decade? You're pretty sure? That's quite the statement. Going out on quite the limb there. In fact, you've inspired me. I'm going to make a bold prediction too. Someone was asking what Usain Bolt could run for a mile. I'm gonna say--and again, maybe this is too strong a sentiment, but--I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be anywhere near as fast as Asbel Kiprop.

OMG I hope Usain doesn't think I'm dogging on him

He could probably break 8:30, but that's not great

Lane two 3100 meter steeplechase.

not to mention that before jager even ran a steeplechase, he had already gone 13:22 for 5k and made a world team at that distance. Wheating has shown nothing remotely near national class at anything above a mile. Apples to oranges comparing the two.

If his livelihood depended on it 9:14

With money in his bank, DNS or 9:57

CGBatch wrote:

He could probably break 8:30, but that's not great

No chance. If he had run it in his prime maybe. Now? No chance. Sub-8:30 may not be great compared to what Jarger and the Kenyans run, or what Wheeting used to run at 1500, but 8:2X is still a very solid time for a US runner.