Ranking WI collegiate distance programs

This is just sad that this thread has turned into people arguing about academics to make themselves feel better about their running. Yes academics are still the most important part of college, but most of these schools are still in the same mid-range and having an average ACT score a few points higher doesn’t make you an Ivy League.

Outta control wrote:

This is just sad that this thread has turned into people arguing about academics to make themselves feel better about their running. Yes academics are still the most important part of college, but most of these schools are still in the same mid-range and having an average ACT score a few points higher doesn’t make you an Ivy League.

Agreed, some good points have been made, but lets steer back towards rankings and predictions for this year.

Sutton was WIAA xc state champ in ‘98. A few seconds behind him was Sal Impeliterri, who got a partial scholarship to attend Ball State. (both battled injuries in track that spring). Look up their running stats, tell who’s running career would you rather have? (Btw, Sal is a great guy, purely based on running stats)

Both Cisewski and Pollard has flashes of greatness in HS, but I would place them in the much improved in college camp.

Finally, in other sports I would agree with the playing against beginner mode in video games, but we are talking about running! We have times to compare athletes and even head to head races in many cases. It’s not averaging 40 ppg in basketball or rushing for 300 yards. If someone runs a 29 minute 10k in DIII, it is only speculative to believe they’d run faster in DI. Also, it’s speculative that’d they be as successful in school. This is Letsrun.com so it is safe to assume running is important to you. Some guys go DI and have great success in school and sport. Some go DI and cannot balance both and may make a choice to focus on one or the other... or drop out. Same applies to DIII kids, maybe a difference in intensity... maybe. Blanket statements, such as calling these guys weak, cancels out your otherwise strong arguments about the thread topic.

Again, not expecting to change your mind, but hoping you’ll try to respect the choices of others. From my time in DIII, I only felt a mutual respect from the runners at academically elite colleges. Do you really think an MIT educated engineer is poopooing the fact that he competes against WIAC schools. Get perspective. Not all successful people are petty.

Any running nerds with too much time on their hands wanna browse through road race results and see if anybody has popped off a fast time this summer?

Acceptance Rates of WI Colleges (2015-16) and Estimated Rank in State for Running

Platteville 94% (6)

Stout 93% (3)

Stevens Point 90% (9)

River Falls 89% (12)

Milwaukee 85% (7)

UW-Eau Claire 85% (5)

Green Bay 84% (11)

Oshkosh 81% (10)

Whitewater 80% (8)

UW-La Crosse 80% (2)

Marquette 74% (4)

Madison 57% (1)

So as you can see, there isn't really a correlation between high acceptance rates and high running performance, or vice versa. It's really all over the place. At the end of the day, it's all about how well each team can recruit. This isn't high school where athletes are born there (for most cases).

Madison is the best at running and academics. That isn’t all over the place.

I ran on several national championship teams. I realize that I wouldn’t have been in the top 12 at Madison. Some others on this site don’t seem capable of looking at track times. Most years the Wiac has no runners who would be in the top 10 at Madison. When you start making uneducated assertions, the D1 guys stop listening. 14:30 is great for the Wiac but it is embarrassing in the Big 10. Xc times are meaningless especially if run at Oshkosh. 14:45 guys run 24:00 and start thinking they can compete with a Badger who runs 14 flat and 24:00. See the difference?

Uwo grad wrote:

I ran on several national championship teams. I realize that I wouldn’t have been in the top 12 at Madison. Some others on this site don’t seem capable of looking at track times. Most years the Wiac has no runners who would be in the top 10 at Madison. When you start making uneducated assertions, the D1 guys stop listening. 14:30 is great for the Wiac but it is embarrassing in the Big 10. Xc times are meaningless especially if run at Oshkosh. 14:45 guys run 24:00 and start thinking they can compete with a Badger who runs 14 flat and 24:00. See the difference?

Yes we see the difference between the Badgers and the WIAC lol, but who are you trying to argue with even? I think this was all a plot by the Milwaukee/Marquette guys to get the WIAC guys and the Badger guys arguing in order to take the heat off their back. No WIAC guys I know thinks that the WIAC is competitive with the Badgers. They do however take pride in being able to scalp some mid-level d1 schools (such as the other D1s in Wisconsin). Most of this thread is Marq/Milw fighting 2 fights against the WIAC and against the Badgers.

What if we factored in Wisconsin High School Grads who went out of state to run. Would that have affected anything if they decided to stay in state?

The guys who typically leave the state are the ones who didn't get an offer from the Badgers but thought they were too good to run D3. There were some good guys who left in the past but not much recently. Some of the top women continue to leave to run for top academic colleges such as Michigan, Northwestern, and Notre Dame.

Bunch of guys that would have made an impact at both Madison and other schools across the state if they decided to stay in state. Hagge, Rink, Baston, Floyd-Matthews, Novak, Caswell, Sampson, Koski, Campbell, among others.

Bunch of Greats wrote:

Bunch of guys that would have made an impact at both Madison and other schools across the state if they decided to stay in state. Hagge, Rink, Baston, Floyd-Matthews, Novak, Caswell, Sampson, Koski, Campbell, among others.

Floyd-Mews is the only name on that list that turned out to be anything. Madison has not missed on a lot of in state talent over the past bunch of years. Only kid I can think of is Dusing from Brookfield Central and Miami OH, otherwise they have made some pretty good business decisions on who they have let go on.

Patrick Campbell ran 14:05 and are you forgetting Dan Gagne???

Bryce Miller 8:34 3k SC. Keegan Calmes D2 1500m runner up. 4:04 mile.

shiek will no longer be attending uwo.

laxguy wrote:

shiek will no longer be attending uwo.

Source? What happened? Where is going instead?

Indian Hills.

JUCO Guy wrote:

Indian Hills.

I have also heard this rumor

Jaxxon wrote:

JUCO Guy wrote:

Indian Hills.

I have also heard this rumor

Unless I am missing something, I do not see him listed on their roster for this fall.