This is shaping up to be a good one. 3 pacemakers have been established through 6k, passing through 5k at 13.20 pace. Can farah break his pb in his swan song track season?
This is shaping up to be a good one. 3 pacemakers have been established through 6k, passing through 5k at 13.20 pace. Can farah break his pb in his swan song track season?
It looks like a very weak field; after Farah the next fastest PRs are 27:11 (Eritrean I've never heard of before) and 27:19 (Leul Gebrselassie, last year in Doha I think)
I'm not sure where you are getting this info about pacing, but if they are really going for 2:40 per K I predict Farah will stay up on the pacers for 1 or 2 laps, then let a 20-30m gap open up by 4 or 5 laps. The pacers will slow down to allow Farah or the field to regain contact, then after the race he will say he was hoping for a PR/fast time but unfortunately the pacers just weren't fast enough.
I predict 27:10 for Farah. To run fast I think he would need some competition, like that stacked field at Pre in 2011 or Karoki and Kamworor at Pre two years ago.
Mo will shock the world with a 26:57, then do the MoBot.
It will be just like that race at Prefontaine:
Step 1: Follows the rabbits for a (very unlikely) 13:20 5km.
Step 2: Decides not to push the pace after they drop even being like 30 seconds faster than the second best guy in the field.
Step 3: Complains afterwards that no one sacrificed their race to pace him.
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Can you link a video or interview or anything at all that shows him complaining after one of his fast (but not that fast) 10Ks? Specifically where he complains about the pacing. I am quite sure this never happened. But you are welcome to prove me wrong!
the letter why wrote:
Can you link a video or interview or anything at all that shows him complaining after one of his fast (but not that fast) 10Ks? Specifically where he complains about the pacing. I am quite sure this never happened. But you are welcome to prove me wrong!
I think he complained after his 26:54 (?) because the pacing broke down and he was absolutely right to complain.
Said he wanted a new PR but the pacers/field didn't set it up to let it happen. Tough to run 7k alone.
Rockstar Games wrote:
It will be just like that race at Prefontaine:
Step 1: Follows the rabbits for a (very unlikely) 13:20 5km.
Step 2: Decides not to push the pace after they drop even being like 30 seconds faster than the second best guy in the field.
Step 3: Complains afterwards that no one sacrificed their race to pace him.
This is the correct answer.
the real deal wrote:
Rockstar Games wrote:It will be just like that race at Prefontaine:
Step 1: Follows the rabbits for a (very unlikely) 13:20 5km.
Step 2: Decides not to push the pace after they drop even being like 30 seconds faster than the second best guy in the field.
Step 3: Complains afterwards that no one sacrificed their race to pace him.
This is the correct answer.
No this is not the correct , in that race there was Kam and Tanui and Mo was in his home base ... He didn't wanna take no chance of losing
If the weather co-operate I believe Mo will better his 10k pb
tony the tiger wrote:
the real deal wrote:This is the correct answer.
No this is not the correct , in that race there was Kam and Tanui and Mo was in his home base ... He didn't wanna take no chance of losing
If the weather co-operate I believe Mo will better his 10k pb
Idiot.
tony the tiger wrote:
the real deal wrote:This is the correct answer.
No this is not the correct , in that race there was Kam and Tanui and Mo was in his home base ... He didn't wanna take no chance of losing
If the weather co-operate I believe Mo will better his 10k pb
See, that right there is why people disrespect Mo. Why didn't he want to take the chance of losing? in the big scheme of things, losing at the Pre is not a big deal. Runner's like Bekele often went for times in diamond league races and pulled out the win as well.
With that said, I do think Mo can improve his PB but would of liked him to actually tough out a race against good competition once in a while
Go see the interview of that same race then. It's all there.
Maybe he didn't vocally complained about it, but when he reluctantly takes the lead and all of a sudden a 68 second lap comes up I think that speaks for itself.
And then he even has the nerve to cry like a baby that Tanui and Kamworor weren't willing to push for him after the halfway point, even knowing Wayward Field arranged it all and paid like 4 guys to lead the first part of the race for their golden boy.
No guts whatsoever , sorry if you don't like the truth.
Farah doesn't have the guts or the dope to run a fast 10k. He doesn't have the toughness to even follow pacers who set a strong pace. The only way he can run fast is if a competitor pulls him along to a fast time, since he can't stand to lose. Since the field is weak, Farah will be lucky to break 27.
A 10k fan wrote:
I think he complained after his 26:54 (?) because the pacing broke down and he was absolutely right to complain.
Said he wanted a new PR but the pacers/field didn't set it up to let it happen. Tough to run 7k alone.
From LetsRuns own recap of last year's Pre 10K (the 26:53 one) ...
By 1400, Farah made it clear that he felt the pace was too slow and moved up next to Rop encouraging him to pick it up; Farah hit 1600 in 4:18 (26:52 pace). The next 1600 was slightly faster (4:17.5) and just before 4800 (12:52 for Farah), Rop decided to make an effort to pick it up before his pacing duties were finished. But no one went with him and by 5k (13:24 for Farah and the main pack, which was down to 10), Rop had a lead of 20 meters on the field.
Any chance of a truly fast time went out the window by 5600, when Farah decided to slink back in the pack, leading to a 67-second lap for the chasers.
... With that said, it was a little odd to see Farah gapped in the second half of a race by a no-name, especially one in which Farah apparently wanted to run fast (again, according to Cram). But we can do little more than speculate why Farah let Kosimbei open up the gap.
[Farah after the race]: "To be honest, I am kind of disappointed. I was hoping to run a lot faster than that. I am in great shape. … It’s good to win the race, but at the same time it would be good have some stronger guys. But that’s what it is, you just deal with it."
Then Farah again after his 26:50 win at Pre, against Kamworor and Tanui (not Karoki, my mistake):
"My aim was to definitely run faster,†Farah told members of the media, slightly frustrated with the final time. “It’s one of those things where you just might as well go for it while it’s still early on [in the season]. That was the aim, but you know, it was pretty difficult.
From the opening kilometers, one could sense the 10,000m was going to be a barn-burner. At halfway, hit in approximately 13:21 ...
Yes, the pacing wasn't ideal last year, but Farah still his halfway in 13:24 and the pacer was 20m ahead (close to 13:20 then?) ... It's perfectly possible to run a pretty fast time off of that (say a bit under his 26:46 PR). Instead he falls back while they run a 67 lap.
Then as others have noted, in 2015 halfway was 13:21 then they slowed, Farah not wanting to risk losing. Nothing wrong with that (winning is the point after all), but when you are the best and talk about wanting a fast time, you are going to have to do most of the work, especially in the later stages of the race.
Anyways, my original comment about him saying he wanted a fast time, but the pacers/field was too slow, refers to not just 10Ks but his races in general. Not necessarily "complaining", but talking about going for a fast time in the lead up to the race, then afterwards saying he just decided to "go for win", either slowing it down from the front or drifting back in the pack.
I predict regardless of what he runs, some drunk dude will come on here and claim it was "worth" 20 seconds faster. Also that mo could break the 3000m wr as well.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
I predict regardless of what he runs, some drunk dude will come on here and claim it was "worth" 20 seconds faster. Also that mo could break the 3000m wr as well.
Do you mean tonya the p*ssy cat?
Seems the OP is spot on:
In that video Farah states exactly what the problem with a race like last year's was. When you have some good guys (Kamworor etc) just sitting on your shoulder it becomes difficult to run good times. They are just sitting on you, using less energy, waiting to take the biggest scalp in distance running, not worth it for a slightly faster PB.
If you give them confidence now, it will be ammunition for London. Make them believe you are unbeatable throughout the season and they get scared at World's.
Here's some fun for you and your mates: get a bottle of vodka and watch that video I posted. You must take a shot each time Farah says "good". See who the last man coherent is.
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