Where are the UW fan-boys now? Someone please stand up for Metcalf and tell me how he made your life better...
Where are the UW fan-boys now? Someone please stand up for Metcalf and tell me how he made your life better...
PNWash wrote:
PNWest wrote:Where's she going?
She is forgoing her last year of eligibility
Holy Guacamole, is this true? Yikes.
I will just say that women (and men, I suppose) who tend towards OCD/anxiety/anorexia can be identified during the recruiting process and the subject should be addressed THEN. If they are not identified during recruiting, they can be identified while on the team. The issues should be addressed THEN. If they are not addressed, their times will be good - superior, even - until they hit the point of diminishing returns. Then, as a coach, you better hope to God you haven't f-ed up this person to the point they can't recover the balance between health and competition. If you ignored the signs along the way you are guilty of, at best, benign neglect, and at worst exploitation. If you ignored them with the knowledge there was a genuine problem, you are guilty of something much worse, as a coach/supervisor of a student-athlete. Every single women's distance program and all of its coaches and athletes are susceptible to being involved as a witness, participant, or victim of anorexia in distance running. There is zero excuse for a top performing team to claim "don't ask, don't tell." Zero.
Skating wrote:
Where are the UW fan-boys now? Someone please stand up for Metcalf and tell me how he made your life better...
I'm no fanboy (see handle). He hasn't made my life better (nor worse), because I do not fall under his orbit.
However, you and your tiny band of detractors got nuthin'. Some athletes get injured, at all colleges. Some athletes leave a program early, at all schools, Oregon and Florida (responsible for past six men's NCAA championships) included. You have proved nothing.
Why are you writing about eating disorders issues in response to the news that Knight isn't running next year? There's never been a suggestion that I have seen that this is an issue for her. I have watched her raced since her sophomore year of high school and have never noticed her looking anything but healthy, including her Pac12 10k win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX22ts61t9g
Preach on about the evils of disordered eating in distance running all you want, but your post is irresponsible to the extent it leads one to think this is a factor in Knight's decision.
Who are you people speculating about that which you have no actual knowledge? Trashing an athlete, coach that you don't know, or program that you are/were not a part of? As a parent of an athlete in this program currently (who is happy and healthy), I can assure you that Katie Knight is not leaving due to an eating disorder. Yes, plenty of programs have unhappy athletes. College athletics is a tough business, expectations are high, and are not always met. Eating disorders are certainly a problem in women's distance running, but to assume that all who leave UW (or any program) are doing so due to coaching mistreatment or neglect is also irresponsible and wrong. Stick to the stats, and times that you love to spew. Leave the personal attacks and speculation off the boards.
I assume that you are replying to my post because it was the last one in the thread rather than because you thought I was implying anything or calling out UW. I'm with you on this. Enjoyed watching Katie race over the years and I hope she enjoys the next chapter.
Correct. I was agreeing with you. There are many inaccuracies on this feed, like most social media feeds. I wish the best for Katie and Charlotte. They are both intelligent talented young women, and will be successful in whatever they pursue beyond running.
Meh.
I don't care if people are offended by my PSA post. I do know plenty about this particular program, over the past 20 years. I do not know the current athletes personally, nor do I mean them any harm.
Why does any varsity/scholarship/scoring athlete at a Power5 D1 program walk away from their final year of eligibility? Hint: it's uncommon.
And I will leave this here, again, as a PSA, not intended to illuminate anything about this particular athlete, but with the intent of elevating every distance athletes's circle of support with some information that may be hard to accept.
P.S. "Seeing" an athlete look healthy does not mean that athlete does not have an eating disorder. People don't have to drop below 100 lbs. to be diagnosed.
https://www.outsideonline.com/2191906/eating-disorders-are-more-common-you-think
Prouse posted a video about her experience at UW and its pretty gutsy and brave to expose her issues. She takes alot of the fault in her time @ UW which is both shocking and big, -- thoughts?
PNWash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UsIcz21tA&t=4sProuse posted a video about her experience at UW and its pretty gutsy and brave to expose her issues. She takes alot of the fault in her time @ UW which is both shocking and big, -- thoughts?
She has nothing bad to say about the UW program, certainly not "shocking and big". A bit boring and typical actually, but she seems like a nice girl who has found a good balance (and didn't ven have to be "born again" to do so).
PNWash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UsIcz21tA&t=4sProuse posted a video about her experience at UW and its pretty gutsy and brave to expose her issues. She takes alot of the fault in her time @ UW which is both shocking and big, -- thoughts?
It’s 33 minutes long! I’m not watching that!
PNWash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UsIcz21tA&t=4sProuse posted a video about her experience at UW and its pretty gutsy and brave to expose her issues. She takes alot of the fault in her time @ UW which is both shocking and big, -- thoughts?
Lisp from Invisalign braces. I know that feel.
LoneStarXC wrote:
PNWash wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_UsIcz21tA&t=4sProuse posted a video about her experience at UW and its pretty gutsy and brave to expose her issues. She takes alot of the fault in her time @ UW which is both shocking and big, -- thoughts?
It’s 33 minutes long! I’m not watching that!
The video is 33 minutes long and I am watching it many times. There is a lot of heart felt and deep message within her words about running and how it can become a compulsive activity.
ok, greatvideo .. can you write some cliff's notes for us?
The post you refer to was authored by a chatbot designed to get those with extremely low IQs to respond.
I agree I thought it was pretty good but curious on what the culture of UW is like as it seems to be something she was trying to hint at.
Ducksuck wrote:
A few years ago it was stars Katie Flood and Liberty Miller skipping their senior years, now Prouse leaves...these are three of the top female runners ever at UW, and yet the silence is deafening as to why. Insiders like Merca who might know aren't talking, and Metcalf keeps tweeting about everything except that his program just took another body blow after an abysmal year in XC and middle/long distance track for both genders.
LOL BUMP
As far as Prouse goes, she pretty much admitted to
1. Developing an eating disorder at UW
2. UW having a culture that supports developing eating disorders, (looking at you Greg)
3. Developing depression and body image issues
4. Saying UNM is Way better to run for
funny thing is she never says any of this, but if you know how to listen and how females communicate, its exactly what she said
A coach change?
Duh captain obvious, so much female talent goes in UW and never comes out. Katie flood lost like 80 pounds and never ran great after her sophomore year, Goethals was just a sad case, very, sad. And how many stories did we have to hear about Metcalf criticizing athletes diets, threatening their scholarships if they got too heavy, Pinching the belly fat of athletes at practice then criticizing them. Guys can endure that stuff a little better, the girls will ( and have) suffered.