Ajee Wilson loses her indoor 800 American record as the US beef supply contains a banned substance

You make unsubstantiated claims that Africans are age-cheating, doping, corrupt people. Yet when faced with hard evidence of your own athlete failing a doping test you make the conversation about cows ears!! You American fans are such hypocrites. The title of this thread should be "Down goes Ajee Wilson". If this was Mary Keitany or any other African who's doing well right now you know you that's what the title would be. Disgusting.

Lawyer 2.0 wrote:

Buy beef with no hormone's added if you're worried.

No hormones what added??

Nicole Teter should retain the record because she's hot. She's hot and clean.

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Ranchers on Monday sued the U.S. Department of Agriculture, seeking a return of labels that clearly identify meat produced in other countries and imported to the United States.

The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Spokane, seeks to overturn a March 2016 decision by the Department of Agriculture to revoke regulations requiring imported meat products to be labeled with their country of origin. That change allowed imported meat to be sold as U.S. products, the lawsuit said.

“Consumers understandably want to know where their food comes from,” said David Muraskin of Washington, D.C., an attorney for Public Justice, which filed the lawsuit. “With this suit, we’re fighting policies that put multinational corporations ahead of domestic producers and shroud the origins of our food supply in secrecy.”

Between 2009 and 2016, the USDA required country-of-origin labeling on meat.

The lawsuit said the change violated the nation’s Meat Inspection Act, which required that slaughtered meat from other countries be clearly marked.

Multinational corporations use the lack of clear labels “to import more beef from more foreign countries, including countries with questionable food safety practices,” he said.

More than 800 million pounds of foreign beef is imported into the United States each year, Public Justice said.

Without country-of-origin labeling, “domestic ranchers and farmers tend to receive lower prices for their meat because multinational companies can import meat and misleadingly present it as homegrown,” Public Justice said in a news release.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COUNTRY_OF_ORIGIN_LABELING_WAOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

hounddogharrier wrote:

So why haven't the other 300 million Americans who eat beef tested positive? If it is true, every American athlete who isn't a vegetarian would test positive. I call Bull Crap.

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Hounddogharrier wrote:

Oh please. You are such a homer. If this was some Russian you would be running a special banner on the story . The point is no other Americans are testing positive for this. Ever other American eats beef, they don't fail the drug test. It is a replay of the same flimsy excuse ever American throws out when caught and all the apologists March out to defend him or her. But a Kenyan, or Russian or Turk fails a drug test and its different .

State exactly which Russian/Turk/Kenyan you have a beef (lol) about.

Other things are considered in addition to the positive:

1. What substance

2. How much

3. ABP

4. Did you and your friend literally come out of the woodwork and win Gold/Silver.

This whole thing sounded fishy to me too when I first read about Ajee getting busted. However, after reading this I may have to change my mind:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7955383/

I guess my questions are these: Going forward where is the line for a failed test (clearly doping) and one caused by environmental factors like eating meat? Do you deal with both the same? And is his going to become the new twinky defense where every time you get busted you claim it was the food?

damn shame wrote:

Clearly she is being tested quite often and in this case, that record (clean the week before) and her wisdom to keep receipts benefited her.

I'm not sure why you think she was tested "quite often." The USADA database says she USADA tested her 2x in 2016, 2x in 2015, 6x in 2014, 4x in 2013. That's 14x in four years.

To give some perspective, Allison Felix was tested 12x/12x/9x/9x = 42x during that same period, while Molly Huddle was tested 10x/11x/9x/7x = 37x. Shalane F was tested 60x, Emma Coburn was tested 15x, with no tests in 2013. Even Mary Cain was tested 31x.

So, no, I wouldn't say Wilson was tested often, let alone "quite often."

I want to believe that the USADA scientists are competent enough to have good reasons for what they're saying. A lot of the posters in the thread are giving them no benefit of the doubt.

But it would help if they released more details of the testing procedure and results.

USADA makes it clear that their database does not reflect all the tests an athlete has undergone. But you know that.With just USADA, she's had 5 tests in 2017, all except this one negative, including one week before the positive. Setting a record triggers an automatic test. Why even attempt to set a record if you know it will trigger a test unless you are clean? Use your brain. People who dope do it out of competition for a reason. The amount that turned up was trivial. USADA got independent testimony that confirmed how this could happen.

What the USADA says wrote:

damn shame wrote:

Clearly she is being tested quite often and in this case, that record (clean the week before) and her wisdom to keep receipts benefited her.

I'm not sure why you think she was tested "quite often." The USADA database says she USADA tested her 2x in 2016, 2x in 2015, 6x in 2014, 4x in 2013. That's 14x in four years.

To give some perspective, Allison Felix was tested 12x/12x/9x/9x = 42x during that same period, while Molly Huddle was tested 10x/11x/9x/7x = 37x. Shalane F was tested 60x, Emma Coburn was tested 15x, with no tests in 2013. Even Mary Cain was tested 31x.

So, no, I wouldn't say Wilson was tested often, let alone "quite often."

do not want wrote:

Seriously, why is crap like zeranol legal to put in meat?

Because we live in the "land of the free" where corporations are free to do pretty much whatever they want to increase profits.

dudebod wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Meat is bad for you if you care about minimizing your cancer risk. It does offer plenty of other benefits, I suppose. Eat what you want.

Cancer rates have risen consistently over the past four decades while red meat consumption has declined. But don't let pesky facts get in the way of a good biased opinion.

Jesus I don't know where to start here.

For one. Meat is not the only thing that causes cancer.

For two. Other preventable deaths have plummeted - cancer is a disease of old age.

I'll assume you were trolling and not actually being so painfully haphazard with your generalizations.

Perhaps they're cutting her a break, you know, since the IAAF allows some of her competitors to run with testes and elevated testosterone.

Didn't something like this already happen a few years ago at the Pan Am Games? Or maybe Junior Olympics? I can't remember. I found this article though, seems plausible if it was a micro dosage:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/steroid-laced-beef-could-be-problem-for-pan-am-athletes/article558180/

Land of the free wrote:

do not want wrote:

Seriously, why is crap like zeranol legal to put in meat?

Because we live in the "land of the free" where corporations are free to do pretty much whatever they want to increase profits.

Because we care about science and evidence in America.

See also: Europe and GMOs.

damn shame wrote:

With just USADA, she's had 5 tests in 2017, all except this one negative, including one week before the positive.

I'm curious. How do you know that she's had 5 tests? The USADA data base only lists 3 for 2017, all in the first three months of the year.

Moo Farah wrote:

You make unsubstantiated claims that Africans are age-cheating, doping, corrupt people. Yet when faced with hard evidence of your own athlete failing a doping test you make the conversation about cows ears!! You American fans are such hypocrites. The title of this thread should be "Down goes Ajee Wilson". If this was Mary Keitany or any other African who's doing well right now you know you that's what the title would be. Disgusting.

+1. They clearly have their friends and enemies. Can you imagine how they would react if this happened to Rupp or any current NOP athlete?

Oh yeah,how dare they tarnish the US's squeaky clean image . Notice the last few "publicized suspensions" were followed by an "excuse".

She is considered an elite so she was doping.

Another giver of +1 wrote:

hounddogharrier wrote:

So why haven't the other 300 million Americans who eat beef tested positive? If it is true, every American athlete who isn't a vegetarian would test positive. I call Bull Crap.

+1

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