Andre Degrasse Run 9.69 but could not beat Jesse Owens time in recreated conditions: THINK ABOUT IT

BeacherRunner wrote:

It makes you think twice about time comparisons between old tracks/technology and new tracks/technology.

Not a totally fair comparison - would be better if Degrasse had a few months (at least) to get accustomed to the older track/technology.

Why do some people make the comparison between Jesse Owens and modern sprinters? The comparison should be between Bob Hayes and modern sprinters. The dirt/cinder track in Munich, GER, 1936 was no better or no worse than the dirt/cinder track in Tokyo, JPN, 1964. The shoes were heavy with long and heavy spikes in 1936 & 1964.

bigger stronger & faster wrote:

Why do some people make the comparison between Jesse Owens and modern sprinters? The comparison should be between Bob Hayes and modern sprinters. The dirt/cinder track in Munich, GER, 1936 was no better or no worse than the dirt/cinder track in Tokyo, JPN, 1964. The shoes were heavy with long and heavy spikes in 1936 & 1964.

Watch the David Epstein TED Talk, plus Owens is a legend outside the sport of track and field. Hayes is way down the list.

Also, in that feature I am curious just what kind of shape DeGrasse was in when it was filmed.

lol 11 seoncds? No way he was that slow. He could break 11 in wetsuit and flippers.

He was not in shape at the time.

My perfect 100m olympic final would be:

Jesse Owens

Ben Johnson

Carl Lewis

Usain Bolt

Bob Hayes

Jim Hines

Justin Gatlin

Maurice Greene

That exercise was such BS. Owens had peaked for the Olympics. He ran against competition. Andre ran by himself in the middle of heavy winter training. Meaningless.

Ben L Wrong wrote:

He was not in shape at the time.

My perfect 100m olympic final would be:

Jesse Owens

Ben Johnson

Carl Lewis

Usain Bolt

Bob Hayes

Jim Hines

Justin Gatlin

Maurice Greene

What no Donavan Bailey?

I understand the politics of 1930's Germany. Owens raced 10.3 100m, 1936. I doubt Owens would have made the 100m final in most Olympics past 1960 if he were in his early twenties. Maybe, 1980.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Ben L Wrong wrote:

He was not in shape at the time.

My perfect 100m olympic final would be:

Jesse Owens

Ben Johnson

Carl Lewis

Usain Bolt

Bob Hayes

Jim Hines

Justin Gatlin

Maurice Greene

What no Donavan Bailey?

But DB was a great competitor. His PB at 25 y.o (1993) was 10.36 (+1.8).

And improved 0.52 in 3 seasons (1994-1995-1996)

Ben L Wrong wrote:

Because there are only 8 lanes.

Six lanes and finalists at the '36 OGs

which means he was a doper just like everyone else on that list, with the possible exception of Owens (but the ncaa didn't have any doping tests or laws back then so who knows what he was taking - could have been in the beef). I would have given a pass to Hayes, but he was also played American football and everyone knows there is a huge amount of doping at ALL levels in that sport.

In shape or not Tyson was 1.3 seconds slower than his PR. That's an eternity for the 100m dash. I have new respect for Jesse Owens. Peace out ✌️

[quote]BeacherRunner wrote:

It makes you think twice about time comparisons between old tracks/technology and new tracks/technology.

Seriously, how long ago was this?

Even in 2017 Jesse Owens still suffers from the oppression of this board. Even if Tyson is in shape he is not going to make up +1.3 seconds. Bottom Line: Jesse Owens would still be competitive today. Period.