How does it feel to be a fake National Champ at New Balance?

Majority of the best talent is at New Balance, at least 800 down. The best ones are the sprinters and they are there

You must be loads of fun at parties.

Fake National Champs wrote:

Do those calling themselves "National Champions" and "All-Americans" at New Balance Outdoor feel guilty knowing most of the best track talent was in Seattle yesterday (despite some notable exceptions)? Or is that just a marketing gimmick that New Balance/Milesplit is pushing & the athletes know better?

Really? This is how you want to live your life?

Congrats to all the New Balance Outdoor National Champions and All Americans! Well done!

Idontreallyknow wrote:

Majority of the best talent is at New Balance, at least 800 down. The best ones are the sprinters and they are there

Must be why Oregon's head coach (not their distance coach) was at Brooks...

Fake National Champs wrote:

Idontreallyknow wrote:

Majority of the best talent is at New Balance, at least 800 down. The best ones are the sprinters and they are there

Must be why Oregon's head coach (not their distance coach) was at Brooks...

Just a thought here, but.... there may be the factor that one is in Washington and the other is in North Carolina... Just a thought, though, bud.

Brian Herron, Anthony Schwartz, Tyrese Cooper, Samantha Watson, Sydney McLaughlin all at New Balance. Those last 4 are all studs, competing with pros already

Idontreallyknow wrote:

Brian Herron, Anthony Schwartz, Tyrese Cooper, Samantha Watson, Sydney McLaughlin all at New Balance. Those last 4 are all studs, competing with pros already

Lol... Brian Herron false started and got dq'ed

Yeah disappointing, but he's nowhere near Tyrese Cooper so doesn't really matter.

The closest thing the US has to a national high school meet for the top talent is Arcadia.

That said, NBON is the top east coast championship meet. It falls into the same category of meets as Mt. Sac, Texas Relays, the CA and TX state meets, Brooks PR, and so on: it plays host to the top talent in a large portion of the country. There's no reason to diminish the athletes racing there.

california dreamin' wrote:

The closest thing the US has to a national high school meet for the top talent is Arcadia.

That said, NBON is the top east coast championship meet. It falls into the same category of meets as Mt. Sac, Texas Relays, the CA and TX state meets, Brooks PR, and so on: it plays host to the top talent in a large portion of the country. There's no reason to diminish the athletes racing there.

Which explains why the best mid-distance to distance women from New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio (boys & girls)), Maryland, Tennessee (both boys & girls), Virginia (boys & girls), Georgia (boys & girls), and boys from Rhode Island, Indiana and North Carolina were at Brooks...? I get that it may as well be the sprints/throws/jumps national championship...but I guess Oregon sent some assistant to cover that one...

hmmmmmm... wrote:

Fake National Champs wrote:

Must be why Oregon's head coach (not their distance coach) was at Brooks...

Just a thought here, but.... there may be the factor that one is in Washington and the other is in North Carolina... Just a thought, though, bud.

The head coach, sprints coach & both distance coaches were at Brooks...maybe they sent the throws guy?

Here is the number of top 8 runners on athletic.net that went to each. Not all ran the event that they are top 8 though. And if they ran their time at Brooks PR then I'm counting them in the top 8, don't think NB has posted yet.

Boys 800- 3 Brooks PR VS 3 New Balance(Counting McGorty DNS)

Boys 1600/Mile/3200- Looks like all went to Brooks PR or didn't go to either

Girls 800- 4 Brooks PR vs 4 New Balance

Girls 1600- Maybe Brooks PR 6 vs 1 New Balance. Not sure if I missed some

So yeah looks like distance nationals was at Brooks and the rest went to new balance. 800 seems to be pretty even but on the girls side, Watson is clear number 1 and went to NB

Idontreallyknow wrote:

Here is the number of top 8 runners on athletic.net that went to each. Not all ran the event that they are top 8 though. And if they ran their time at Brooks PR then I'm counting them in the top 8, don't think NB has posted yet.

Boys 800- 3 Brooks PR VS 3 New Balance(Counting McGorty DNS)

Boys 1600/Mile/3200- Looks like all went to Brooks PR or didn't go to either

Girls 800- 4 Brooks PR vs 4 New Balance

Girls 1600- Maybe Brooks PR 6 vs 1 New Balance. Not sure if I missed some

So yeah looks like distance nationals was at Brooks and the rest went to new balance. 800 seems to be pretty even but on the girls side, Watson is clear number 1 and went to NB

Any chance you feel like doing the same analyzation for the 100/hurdles/400 events that took place at Brooks? I'm actually genuinely asking...there were some pretty impressive sprint performances at Brooks but I'm obviously not as familiar with this event area...

I am a writer and journalist as well as a coach and was at New Balance Nationals as press. Sitting in the press tent and seeing these kids compete, meeting many of them, I find it patently offensive to hear anyone say—even here in the grand land of trolls—they are fakers. They put every bit of their hearts and souls into very impressive performances.

If there is any real issue, it is that Brooks and NBN coincide. Coaches and athletes of this caliber have to make very careful choices of what events to attend, especially teams such as Tesoro coming all the way from the West Coast.

This thread is absurd. Good for New Balance and Brooks for throwing time, effort, money into these meets, same as Nike and Footlocker in fall. More opportunity is...more opportunity. Good for the kids who got out there and raced. Who gives a damn what they call themselves.

A Florida Coach wrote:

Sitting in the press tent and seeing these kids compete, meeting many of them, I find it patently offensive to hear anyone say—even here in the grand land of trolls—they are fakers. They put every bit of their hearts and souls into very impressive performances.

Coaches and athletes of this caliber have to make very careful choices of what events to attend, especially teams such as Tesoro coming all the way from the West Coast.

So we should give them medals because they tried hard? And Tesoro doesn't have anyone good enough to be invited to Brooks...I suppose calling them fakers was indeed harsh...but I wouldn't feel good calling myself a National Champ if I didn't race the best talent...

They are competing in a recognized and long-standing national-level meet. I think calling them All-Americans is fine. In many sports, we have multiple contests that are all of a similar caliber and both NBN and Brooks I feel are of this high a caliber. Off hand, does anyone know which meet (Brooks, NBN, Arcadia or other) attracts the most athletes, most teams, or has produced the most records? That's not a rhetorical question—I don't know off the top of my head, either.

What about the AAU "Nationals"?

How does it feel to be a sh*tty troll on Letsrun.com?