Bre Oakley 9:51 @ Brooks

Rising Sun wrote:

The only problem with Japanese girls and a lot of little American girls is that they eventually have to become women. If I were a college coach I would never even take into consideration a high school girls mark the was accomplished before the 11th grade. Oakley being a senior and pretty much fully matured gives more legitimacy to her accomplishment.

Maybe, but I'm sure an outlier like Katie Rainsberger challenges this argument. Surely, she survived puberty and continued to improve, and there are others. But, generally, I would agree that hard training before about 16 years of age might be a bad idea - particularly if we are talking about middle school or even younger.

Rising Sun wrote:

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Apples to Oranges. 4 Japanese girls in 3 regional races go 9:02 or faster in the 3k in one day. Perspective people.

The only problem with Japanese girls and a lot of little American girls is that they eventually have to become women. If I were a college coach I would never even take into consideration a high school girls mark the was accomplished before the 11th grade. Oakley being a senior and pretty much fully matured gives more legitimacy to her accomplishment.

Brie's form is absolutely atrocious!! A fix outta be worth 5 seconds or so

No Pledge wrote:

Rising Sun wrote:

The only problem with Japanese girls and a lot of little American girls is that they eventually have to become women. If I were a college coach I would never even take into consideration a high school girls mark the was accomplished before the 11th grade. Oakley being a senior and pretty much fully matured gives more legitimacy to her accomplishment.

Brie's form is absolutely atrocious!! A fix outta be worth 5 seconds or so

Agreed!

She'll have to move up to the 10,000 in college and eventually the marathon with that no knee-lifting shuffle of hers. She'll get drilled in the final lap of the 1500 and likely the 5000 in college and beyond.

But damn does she have an engine!!

No Pledge wrote:

Brie's form is absolutely atrocious!! A fix outta be worth 5 seconds or so

If only her form had been good... like the others.

Oakley is definitely more like a mule than a gazelle, but the same could be said of some of the top East African ladies.

Yeah it's terrible wrote:

No Pledge wrote:

Brie's form is absolutely atrocious!! A fix outta be worth 5 seconds or so

If only her form had been good... like the others.

The fact that she won has nothing to do with my point. Have you seen her race? All I'm saying is a form fix could do wonders for her. She's not going to be competing against American high school girls forever.

No doubt wrote:

No Pledge wrote:

Brie's form is absolutely atrocious!! A fix outta be worth 5 seconds or so

Agreed!

She'll have to move up to the 10,000 in college and eventually the marathon with that no knee-lifting shuffle of hers. She'll get drilled in the final lap of the 1500 and likely the 5000 in college and beyond.

But damn does she have an engine!!

+1

Hounddogharrier wrote:

The Swinger, Sammy wrote:

2nd fastest in history!

Japanese Running News just tweeted that today in 2 high school regional races in Japan, 7 girls ran 9:14 or faster for the 3000. All superior to her 9:51 two mile. Crazy.

too bad they can't develop their runners eh?

Oakley is going to CAL, where runners go to die. She will do ok frosh XC season then fade away, look at Knights.

Big mistake . She coulda been a Duck. About the only place worse she could have picked was Duke. Sad. This was her last hurrah.

Cggjj wrote:

Oakley is going to CAL, where runners go to die. She will do ok frosh XC season then fade away, look at Knights.

Or maybe Knights took some "shortcuts" to get to where she got that year & CAL helped her do things the right way for her future overall health and well-being...?

the Profit wrote:

Big mistake . She coulda been a Duck. About the only place worse she could have picked was Duke. Sad. This was her last hurrah.

And then have no future once running is over?

You would know? wrote:

Cggjj wrote:

Oakley is going to CAL, where runners go to die. She will do ok frosh XC season then fade away, look at Knights.

Or maybe Knights took some "shortcuts" to get to where she got that year & CAL helped her do things the right way for her future overall health and well-being...?

Shortcuts?

dudebod wrote:

9:51 = 9:10. The top 2 Japanese were 9:00,9:02, very fast, but Rainsberger and Efraimson were faster, and of course, Kain.

u trolling or just stupid? Cain...

There is a culture of fúcktardation here like no other place I've seen.

A girl wins a loaded two-mile race by ten seconds, all gained in the last third of the race, in the second-fastest time in high-school history and the fastest ever in an all-amateurs race.

The comments in response to the OP?

"Her form sucks, she has no shot at anything except the 10K or marathon"

"Meanwhile, Japanese girls are better"

"She has no future at Cal, damn shame"

You're all cúcks and twats here.

No Pledge wrote:

Yeah it's terrible wrote:

If only her form had been good... like the others.

The fact that she won has nothing to do with my point. Have you seen her race? All I'm saying is a form fix could do wonders for her. She's not going to be competing against American high school girls forever.

Right, the point is that she was smooth, not wasting any energy, and didn't have a bunch of wasted motion like, for example a sprinter would have. Simply atrocious! I mean, even if those things would cost her a lot of time, she could have a beautiful form, and even stop in the middle of races so people can take photos! On the bright side, maybe she can learn that at Cal.

Ivanka Palin, Jr. wrote:

There is a culture of fúcktardation here like no other place I've seen.

A girl wins a loaded two-mile race by ten seconds, all gained in the last third of the race, in the second-fastest time in high-school history and the fastest ever in an all-amateurs race.

The comments in response to the OP?

"Her form sucks, she has no shot at anything except the 10K or marathon"

"Meanwhile, Japanese girls are better"

"She has no future at Cal, damn shame"

You're all cúcks and twats here.

Agree. She just ran the fastest outdoor time for 2 miles. It's equivalent to 15:50 for 5K. CAL will have two of the best shufflers around. They'll put the shuffle suffer on almost anyone in the nation. So they aren't the very best in the NCAA, who cares.

It's amazing how fast Oakley can shuffle. She ought to be dealing in Vegas.

No Pledge wrote:

Yeah it's terrible wrote:

If only her form had been good... like the others.

The fact that she won has nothing to do with my point. Have you seen her race? All I'm saying is a form fix could do wonders for her. She's not going to be competing against American high school girls forever.

Sure, like how Salazar improved Mary Cain's form.

Ivanka Palin, Jr. wrote:

There is a culture of fúcktardation here like no other place I've seen.

A girl wins a loaded two-mile race by ten seconds, all gained in the last third of the race, in the second-fastest time in high-school historyetter and the fastest ever in an all-amateurs race.

The comments in response to the OP?

"Her form sucks, she has no shot at anything except the 10K or marathon"

"Meanwhile, Japanese girls are better"

"She has no future at Cal, damn shame"

You're all cúcks and twats here.

Point is Japanese are a LOT better. 7 ran faster on the same day she ran 9:51. What are we doing wrong?