Eliud Kipchoge - 2018 Sub2 Attempt

The "sub 2 project" by Nike is just a commercial joke.....of course Eliud can break 2 hours in april......but......it will not be official and go to the history books.

It`s more interesting what he can do in an official race with not the same help of taking the wind and pacemakers that jump in and out. Nike is promoting their Vaporfly and it`s the only thing that counts for them. What happens if IAAF "disqualifie" the shoe because of the graphit with the springing effect? It`s not allowed if you read the rules.....

COACH J.S

Star wrote:

It doesn't make sense to do it again.

They already learned what they needed to learn about the affects of constant pacing and drafting and not having 90 degree turns.

It still wouldn't be an official record.

It's not the same as a major competition like London.

It cost a lot of money to do that event.

To be honest with you, they earned so much money from this 'stunt' they afford to do it again and still end with a profit. Also, although it won't be official, people will remember even in a hundred years about that guy who first broke the 2-hour barrier. While Kimetto's mark will be long gone. They can only get benefits out of it.

It's nothing out of the ordinary with the shoe..it's just in the mind that you can run faster with them to be honest.

Read the rules! The graphity springing effect is not allowed! But money talks as always..... ;)

The shoe has a propulsive "sensation" , it's a 4 percent improvement sensation, or they can name the shoe whatever they want.

Will not give as much as 4 %....and it is still not correct to the rules.

If it truly is something miraculous with the shoe, make sure it won't be released on the market anytime soon.

Stop swinging from Jims nuts guy. Why the hell would any company pay him 8 figures to take part in a project when he isn't winning major competitions? You do know there are plenty of trail and ultra runners with more leg speed than jim, even some on the nike trail team. Breaking 14 at wser means nothing in the Grande scheme of things because there are no top level or even B level east Africans running that particular race or distance. In essence jim is beating up on uncompetitive field of athletes. He doesn't even race competitive fields for trail races. Give me a break

Where can i find a list with all the athletes that are under contract with Nike?

Ruppftw wrote:

Star wrote:

It doesn't make sense to do it again.

They already learned what they needed to learn about the affects of constant pacing and drafting and not having 90 degree turns.

It still wouldn't be an official record.

It's not the same as a major competition like London.

It cost a lot of money to do that event.

To be honest with you, they earned so much money from this 'stunt' they afford to do it again and still end with a profit. Also, although it won't be official, people will remember even in a hundred years about that guy who first broke the 2-hour barrier. While Kimetto's mark will be long gone. They can only get benefits out of it.

I don't if you can quantify how much they earned for it but it did get a lot of publicity. (mostly for LRC calling it stupid and talking about it so much)

Part of it was the novelty of the attempt which will wear off.

But sub two is still out there. Maybe more people believe it's with in reach and will tune in.

I'd really hate to see the first sub two be unofficial, though.

It would be so much better if the first sub two is a ratified record.

Ruppftw wrote:

Star wrote:

It doesn't make sense to do it again.

They already learned what they needed to learn about the affects of constant pacing and drafting and not having 90 degree turns.

It still wouldn't be an official record.

It's not the same as a major competition like London.

It cost a lot of money to do that event.

To be honest with you, they earned so much money from this 'stunt' they afford to do it again and still end with a profit. Also, although it won't be official, people will remember even in a hundred years about that guy who first broke the 2-hour barrier. While Kimetto's mark will be long gone. They can only get benefits out of it.

Hear! Hear! This guy understands!

Talented Rabbit wrote:

Get Kenenisa Bekele, Wilson Kipsang, Dennis Kimetto and Galen Rupp to run with him. Then he'll do it.

If it happens again, i can say that i might lose all my respect to Kipchoge. He cares too much about the money.

Stunt wrote:

If it happens again, i can say that i might lose all my respect to Kipchoge. He cares too much about the money.

Is that a bad thing in your lalaland?

Peter Andersson wrote:

Stunt wrote:

If it happens again, i can say that i might lose all my respect to Kipchoge. He cares too much about the money.

Is that a bad thing in your lalaland?

Yes, it is, it's supposed to be about the running and less about money. Abebe Bikila even ran barefoot...

What century are you living in? Kipchoge is a paid professional. If Nike wanted to pay him to run up the Empire State Building instead of the NYC marathon, he would do it. Kipchoge quit running for the sake of running when he signed a contract as a very young man.

Stunt wrote:

Peter Andersson wrote:

Is that a bad thing in your lalaland?

Yes, it is, it's supposed to be about the running and less about money. Abebe Bikila even ran barefoot...

If he doesn't break the WR in Berlin it won't happen. And he is unlikely to do it in Berlin.