Hoka

buy a more responsive shoe for quicker paces.

I had never heard of Hoka until last month where I met an Ultra guy that is sponsored by them. On a whim I ordered a pair to use for my marathon training distance runs as they seem to be more cushioned-I plan to keep using my Brooks Pure Cadence for shorter/faster runs. I am not saying that the brooks pure cadence is the shoe to have, but I am saying that consider having two kinds of shoes for different kinds of workouts, if your budget permits.

I have been through 6 pairs of Hokas. The new models out right now are very good. The Arahi might be there best shoe.

Don't let that cushioning fool you. Responsiveness isn't the shoe. Ground contact time is a variable of many things not the shoe.

I'm thinking of taking the plunge and trying a pair of Hokas. Not sure to try the Claytons or Cliftons 3.Which models have you tried?And to the OP, you really should have a 2nd pair for your faster runs.

Bob Schul Country wrote:

I have been through 6 pairs of Hokas. The new models out right now are very good. The Arahi might be there best shoe.

Don't let that cushioning fool you. Responsiveness isn't the shoe. Ground contact time is a variable of many things not the shoe.

here's my take on the Clayton and Clifton.. as i ran my last two marathons in them, Boston in the Clayton 1, and Bayshore in the Clifton 3

Clayton has a medium soft heel, but a slightly firmer fore and mid-foot.

Clifton has a much softer over-all feel. But a bit more traction on the road.

the Clayton feels like a 'faster' shoe... it's a tiny bit lighter and stiffer

but i ran almost the exact same paces at the same effort level in both races...

Thanks. I am in my mid-50s, starting to get a little knee pain, and had a bout of Achilles tendonitis. I am leaning towards the Cliftons. I am in NB 880s now and the Saucony Triumph ISO previously.

23timer wrote:

here's my take on the Clayton and Clifton.. as i ran my last two marathons in them, Boston in the Clayton 1, and Bayshore in the Clifton 3

Clayton has a medium soft heel, but a slightly firmer fore and mid-foot.

Clifton has a much softer over-all feel. But a bit more traction on the road.

the Clayton feels like a 'faster' shoe... it's a tiny bit lighter and stiffer

but i ran almost the exact same paces at the same effort level in both races...

LIRunner wrote:

Thanks. I am in my mid-50s, starting to get a little knee pain, and had a bout of Achilles tendonitis. I am leaning towards the Cliftons. I am in NB 880s now and the Saucony Triumph ISO previously.

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i'm in my late 50's and the way my legs feel/felt after long runs in the Hokas has made me a fan.

you can get a good deal on the Clifton 3, now that the 4 is out