Brodey Hasty will be back!

You're an idiot. I, personally, have not been removed from the program. Guy volunteered for two cross country seasons, that is it. And if you are wanting to compare Avery's guys vs. the JV caliber guys left on the team, I will be happy to compare times, this season and in college.

Kind of funny that you call me obsessed, when you are the one wasting all your time looking up how Avery's kids have done in college.

The only issue I have is that the district spun the complete ineptitude and insubordination of their own employees to make it look like Avery knowing violated policies. The problem is, there is zero evidence that he knowingly violated anything, while there is plenty of evidence to show the AD's insubordination, and their own ignorance of the policies.

drama, thanks for the heads up. First time on here, so that was dumb of me. But, since I own my company, I will not be too hard on myself for using my company email address.

Back to my point, signing a one page document that does nothing more than agree that you know what volunteering means, is not signing off that you have been informed of any policies, or have been given a handbook.

When you look at other coaches' employment documents, in the district, they initialed multiple disclosures, like internet policies and FERPA disclosures, etc. But, none of the forms disclose the two policies that had been violated. However, the Principal and Athletic Director know what those policies are. They knew, for years, that Avery was a private coach of athletes from Brentwood, and asked him to sign on as a volunteer, without disclosing those policies. Why? Because they did not even know the policy about compensation, themselves. They, actually, did know the policy disallowing for-profits to use the track. But, they chose to not comply with the policy, putting Avery in a compromising situation. It is totally on them.

Do you guys remember what you're arguing about?

Brentwood liked winning the way they were winning, with a few great guys and enough others to be a national power. Then they didn’t want to give that up, at all cost. I put that on the AD.

Great attitude. If you ever talk to any college runners you will see that MOST did NOT use a private coach.

...was left off GA even though being in the top 7 bc he wasn't paying Avery. Vroons (or the parents that are pissed) should find llorens and confirm story. Also let IRS know Avery was/is requesting payment in cash, and, stands to reason, probably not reporting full amounts.

Huh, what? wrote:

Cults are bad wrote:

What about the kid that got left at home one year from one of the big meets, great American I think. Didn't pay for coaching so got left behind at home from an I'm season meet. Is that a true story.

Never heard of that. GA is also around SAT time. Maybe that is why the athlete you are referring to didn't go. People make up stories all the time though.

What a horrible thing to say. Clearly missing the spirit of the sport. The Brentwood team is young, but will rebuild. By the way, the number 1 and 2 runners on the Brentwood time trial would be right behind guy Avery's top 2. But this comment affirms that the program is better off without Guy or parents like Michael sandifer. Have fun flying around the country running races.

Vroon, you are so full of it. No, they would not be behind Avery's top 2. You are living in a fantasy world. We will see, though.

First, have a spine enough to admit that you fed the documents to the Tennessean. This discussion would not even be happening if you had not done that, trying to ruin Avery's reputation.

So hypocritical. You pay Avery for two or three years, then disparage him to the AD by making ridiculous exaggerated statements, and try to keep others from doing what you did for those years. You try to appeal to Avery to put your son in a race he was not fast enough for, because you pay Avery and your son trained with him. Then, when he rejected your pay to play proposal, you fired him as a coach, and went crying to the AD, saying Avery was a pay to play coach. Due to your stupid behavior, your talented sons did not get to race in that national competition, at all.

And why is the program better off without Sandifer? Because he debunked all the bull in the Quirk report, a report you were dumb enough to believe and pass off to the press?

Little Currin Sandifer- I like the discussion. Thanks!

"And why is the program better off without Sandifer?"

Why are you typing in the third person? your email above indicates you are sandifer.

Lol.

If you just look at the seasons, common sense tells you that what you are saying is hogwash. He did go to GA his junior year. Yes, he missed GA his senior year, but not because he was not paying Avery. Look at all the other varsity races. He was 4-6 in all of them, which means Avery ran him on varsity. Furthermore, if he was running varsity and not being trained by Avery, then that blows the whole pay to play bull out of the water. Lastly, although Avery was working with Brentwood athletes during that time, he was not on staff as coach at BHS. So, whoever was the coach should have had the final say concerning who ran. Nice try.

Yet, you still lack the spine to admit you fed the report and letter to the press. Had to threaten your sons. Shameful. Keep laughing.

Funny- I can officially tell you that I did not feed the story to the Tennessean. I have evidence to support that. But it's really not relevant. The story was given to Tennessean by an old nemesis of guy avery. Thanks,

Little Cur wrote:

If you just look at the seasons, common sense tells you that what you are saying is hogwash. He did go to GA his junior year. Yes, he missed GA his senior year, but not because he was not paying Avery. Look at all the other varsity races. He was 4-6 in all of them, which means Avery ran him on varsity. Furthermore, if he was running varsity and not being trained by Avery, then that blows the whole pay to play bull out of the water. Lastly, although Avery was working with Brentwood athletes during that time, he was not on staff as coach at BHS. So, whoever was the coach should have had the final say concerning who ran. Nice try.

As you've said elsewhere the admin and ad and other coaches are inept and incompetent, so of course it was really guy calling the shot. Especially those years with such an inexperienced coach at the helm.

You show how out of your depth you are on this instance by the fact that you don't even know who the "official" coach of record was. Guy was running the show, even if records indicate otherwise. Go ask the alum who was the "coach" that year.

You proved my point with your research. Avery decided to take only paying athletes to great American. You can spin this however you'd like, but it's a fact. In doing so they left off a kid who had earned a spot on that trip, as evidenced by his performances all fall. That seem right to you?

Doesn't mean avery's a bad guy or a crappy coach or that the kids didn't like him. Hell Francois probably even liked him, and probably very much benefited from guy's training and being with Avery athletes. But they ran as bhs and left off a kid that was varsity the rest of the year bc Avery wanted it to be only his paying crew.

Hey, um, how about all those years The Tennessean named some other Brentwood coach that nobody remembers their Coach of the Year? Shouldn’t he give those plaques back? Same with those TSSAA plaques they give the winning coach. Bet those are meaningful.

Mad Brad, sorry your expectations were not met in VA. Sorry your kids did not get to run in the DMR and 4x1-mile at nationals, due to your issues. You can't take that back. We have adequately debunked your effort to defame Avery in the press, based on a report you believed, but not sharp enough to detect it was baloney. You have threatened to sue others, but can't seem to pull the trigger. The good runners have chosen not to run under the coach you got installed, by recommending him and following-up with the AD 12 times in three weeks, all the while making exaggerated, disparaging, but false, remarks against Avery, and threatening the administration. What else you got?

Have a great season. Those trained by Avery are going to have a very fun year.

Nice speculation. Pure conjecture.

Could someone update this thread with a flowchart so we know who is who?