Official 2017 D3 Cross Country Thread

Sorry wrong link. Results are already in. Saddler recently ran 24:55 so assuming this is a tougher course, Kingstedt is looking good.

1 Otto Kingstedt JR RIT 24:46.6

2 Neil Saddler SR NYU 25:04.4

3 Jeremy Hernandez SR Ramapo 25:15.7

4 Brandon Shirazi JR NYU 25:22.3

http://www.leonetiming.com/2017/XC/HoughtonHighlander/

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Sorry wrong link. Results are already in. Saddler recently ran 24:55 so assuming this is a tougher course, Kingstedt is looking good.

1 Otto Kingstedt JR RIT 24:46.6

2 Neil Saddler SR NYU 25:04.4

3 Jeremy Hernandez SR Ramapo 25:15.7

4 Brandon Shirazi JR NYU 25:22.3

http://www.leonetiming.com/2017/XC/HoughtonHighlander/

Houghton's course is very flat (think oberlin) but a little slower with taller grass and more wind potential (was very windy last year, but was not there this year. Also, the weather was a little warmer today than it was across the board last weekend. Maybe had a little to do with times.

federico wrote:

Dennis Maloney hasn’t raced yet this season. He’s listed on MIT’s roster and my guess is that he will do the same as last year: not make his debut until the NEICAAA meet.

That's happening right now apparently.

Dennis Maloney was 6th in 25:29, not bad considering the DI & DII competition. It was won by Leakey Kipkosgei in 24:51. Kipkosgei ran 23:48 last week at Paul Short to give an indication of how times compare. That puts Maloney in top 10 or 5 territory I think. MIT was impressive as a team too.

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/12251.html#93042

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Dennis Maloney was 6th in 25:29, not bad considering the DI & DII competition. It was won by Leakey Kipkosgei in 24:51. Kipkosgei ran 23:48 last week at Paul Short to give an indication of how times compare. That puts Maloney in top 10 or 5 territory I think. MIT was impressive as a team too.

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/12251.html#93042

Is there a reason why the times were so slow this year? Seems like the weather was fine. Unless there was some factor slowing the race down that I don't know about, this was not an impressive MIT performance.

Last year, MIT's 5th man ran 25:38. This year, their 5th was at 26:25.

Also, I don't think we should be using Kipkosgei's performance as a measuring stick for Maloney. He won the race easily by 34 seconds. I highly doubt this race was comparable to his effort at Paul Short. Historically, if you're around 25flat at Franklin Park that means you have potential to run top 30 at Nationals. Guys with top 10 potential are typically running well under 25min.

Thanks for the insights on the course. But today's race isn't the only factor I consider in Maloney being top 10 material. I also consider:

1) He ran a 30:07 10K at the championships last spring.

2) He placed 12th at last year's XC championships.

So if even if he doesn't improve over last year but remains healthy, he's a good bet for top 10.

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Thanks for the insights on the course. But today's race isn't the only factor I consider in Maloney being top 10 material. I also consider:

1) He ran a 30:07 10K at the championships last spring.

2) He placed 12th at last year's XC championships.

So if even if he doesn't improve over last year but remains healthy, he's a good bet for top 10.

oh, for sure. He definitely has the pedigree. Seems like he might have had an injury to start the season, as he didn't race early on. He's obviously coming back from something that limited his training.

What about the only two Freshman to make FloTrack's rankings, Jared Borowsky of North Central and Kaitlyn Mooney of the Coast Guard Academy. Legit?? Borowsky 9:07 3200 in HS, Mooney 10:28. Potential competitors?

Borowsky did a redshirt year at Colorado. He's every d3 program's wet dream. Couple other good freshmen in d3 right now, but he's probably the best one. As for Mooney, freshman impact makers on the women's side are way more common, but her results certainly look like the real deal.

FreshmanPower? wrote:

What about the only two Freshman to make FloTrack's rankings, Jared Borowsky of North Central and Kaitlyn Mooney of the Coast Guard Academy. Legit?? Borowsky 9:07 3200 in HS, Mooney 10:28. Potential competitors?

Borowsky did log an 8:29 3000 indoors while at Colorado. Transferring to North Central is a good move for him, as that program will certainly draw out his potential, which is a lot. North Central, what can one say. A documentary movie about that program would be great.

The next best Freshman that I noticed is Ryan Cutter of U of Chicago, just down the road from me. There's a lot of Ryan Cutters with HS profiles, but if he's the one from Hercules, CA, he has a 9:18 3200 PR.

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Borowsky did log an 8:29 3000 indoors while at Colorado. Transferring to North Central is a good move for him, as that program will certainly draw out his potential, which is a lot. North Central, what can one say. A documentary movie about that program would be great.

The next best Freshman that I noticed is Ryan Cutter of U of Chicago, just down the road from me. There's a lot of Ryan Cutters with HS profiles, but if he's the one from Hercules, CA, he has a 9:18 3200 PR.

Don't forget Sam Pinkowski from Wartburg. A true freshman. Ran 9:07 and 4:16 while at LaCrosse Central HS. Curious why he chose Wartburg over UW LaCrosse or UW Eau Claire.

Wartburg wrote:

Curious why he chose Wartburg over UW LaCrosse or UW Eau Claire.

There's a water park in their indoor athletic facility.

He knows how bad UW La Crosse and UW Eau Claire are.

I'm assuming you mean academically - not athletically. You would be correct in that regard.

Week of 10/14 Preview:

North Central: Pre-Nats

SUNY Geneseo: Pre-Nats

UW-La Crosse: La Crosse

Haverford: Rowan

Pomona-Pitzer: Pomona Pitzer

RPI: Connecticut College

Amherst: Williams

WashU: Pre-Nats

CNU: Pre-Nats

Calvin: Pre-Nats

Loras: Pre-Nats

MIT: Pre-Nats

UW-Eau Claire: Pre-Nats

Williams: Williams

Wartburg: Pre-Nats

Carnegie Mellon: Rowan

Johns Hopkins: Pre-Nats

Middlebury: Connecticut College

UW-Stout: Pre-Nats

Occidental: Pre-Nats

Bates: Bowdoin

Claremont MS: Pre-Nats

Rowan: Rowan

Ohio Northern: Pre-Nats

Rhodes: Rowan

St. Lawrence: off

UW-Platteville: Pre-Nats

Brandeis: Connecticut College

Nebraska Wesleyan: La Crosse

Emory: Pre-Nats

Albion: Pre-Nats

NYU: Highlander

St. Olaf: La Crosse

Dickinson: Rowan

Tufts: Connecticut College

Messiah: off

Case Western: Rochester

Cahhhhhhnnnn. Go cahhhhhnnnnn.

Pomona-Pitzer will be at Pre-Nats

Course looks spicy. Its gonna be a dirty one out there boys.

Will the Genny Boys forget to tie up their hair and get lost on the hairpin turns? Will Patel run into the tall grass for a potty break and mysteriously never return? Will Pomona-Pitzer be heard comparing this course to the hills in LA? Only time will tell.