What was the difference between the Morceli brothers?

In 6th grade, I ran a 6:12 mile on the same day that my identical twin ran a 7:10.

Wejo 28:06, rojo much slower

Dude lots of top athletes have brothers who aren't athletic at all. They're brothers not clones.

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HardLoper wrote:

Dude lots of top athletes have brothers who aren't athletic at all. They're brothers not clones.

Rojo? care to comment?

HardLoper wrote:

Dude lots of top athletes have brothers who aren't athletic at all. They're brothers not clones.

Yeah bro, but the point is that the Morceli brothers were both Olympic athletes. The older one coached Nouredine.

Given the 13 year age gap, I guess perhaps it's possible they have different mothers.

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coeovettcramelliott wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

Dude lots of top athletes have brothers who aren't athletic at all. They're brothers not clones.

Yeah bro, but the point is that the Morceli brothers were both Olympic athletes. The older one coached Nouredine.

Some brothers have very different athletic ability, some brothers have slightly different athletic ability. Not sure if I can simplify this any more for you.

What significant pharmaceutical product made it's debut in the intervening 13 years?

coeovettcramelliott wrote:

Older brother Abderrahmane_Morceli was 13 years the elder of Nouredinne, and was also his coach.

PBs of 3:39.7 in the 1500m and 1:45.7 in the 800m. Competed in both the 1980 and 1984 Olympic Games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderrahmane_Morceli

Nouredine won Olympic Gold in 96 as well as 3 straight WCs.

PBS of 3:27.37 in the 1500m (WR) and 1.44.7 in the 800m.

How can such a huge difference be explained. Is it really likely that Nouredinne was so much more gifted than his brother? His training could hardly have been very much different as his brother was his coach!

You are dense. You really are. Yep, if one guy is a world beater, his brother must be one also. Good Grief.

HardLoper wrote:

coeovettcramelliott wrote:

Yeah bro, but the point is that the Morceli brothers were both Olympic athletes. The older one coached Nouredine.

Some brothers have very different athletic ability, some brothers have slightly different athletic ability. Not sure if I can simplify this any more for you.

I doubt that is common. My point was that usually the 'unathletic' brother really doesn't gives a rat's arse. Both Morcellis were likely close to their genetic potential as middle-distance runners.

I'm not sure I could simplify the idea of genetics to you in a way you could comprehend.

Aden is Laughing wrote:

coeovettcramelliott wrote:

Older brother Abderrahmane_Morceli was 13 years the elder of Nouredinne, and was also his coach.

PBs of 3:39.7 in the 1500m and 1:45.7 in the 800m. Competed in both the 1980 and 1984 Olympic Games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderrahmane_Morceli

Nouredine won Olympic Gold in 96 as well as 3 straight WCs.

PBS of 3:27.37 in the 1500m (WR) and 1.44.7 in the 800m.

How can such a huge difference be explained. Is it really likely that Nouredinne was so much more gifted than his brother? His training could hardly have been very much different as his brother was his coach!

You are dense. You really are. Yep, if one guy is a world beater, his brother must be one also. Good Grief.

Or maybe you could try reading behind the lines idiot.

First of all, I would assume that something like talent at distance running is largely genetic. And brothers are very genetically close, duh. Secondly, they likely trained in a very similar way given that the older brother was the coach of Nourredine.

Genetics isn't everything. The older brother could have been malnourished during key years of upbringing, resulting in worse development of aerobic systems. One may have have used drugs, the other not. Etc.

The fact that the older coached the younger doesn't imply at all that they were similarly trained. Perhaps the older trained in-optimally, learned from those mistakes, and trained Nourredine in a better way.

If this is a clever attempt to troll on rojo, then 9/10.

If not, then just look at wejo and rojo to see the same phenomenon.

That's actually not that much difference in ability.

The older one probably had more obstacles to his development in his era, could have had injuries etc. etc.

No reason why he would have coached his brother exactly the same as he was.

Secretariat had a lot of brothers and sisters. You've never heard of any of them.

coeovettcramelliott wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

Some brothers have very different athletic ability, some brothers have slightly different athletic ability. Not sure if I can simplify this any more for you.

I doubt that is common. My point was that usually the 'unathletic' brother really doesn't gives a rat's arse. Both Morcellis were likely close to their genetic potential as middle-distance runners.

I'm not sure I could simplify the idea of genetics to you in a way you could comprehend.

Brothers have different genetics. What surprises me is that we are both the same species, yet your brain is so small you can't even understand this.

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That's actually not that much difference in ability.

The older one probably had more obstacles to his development in his era, could have had injuries etc. etc.

No reason why he would have coached his brother exactly the same as he was.

Secretariat had a lot of brothers and sisters. You've never heard of any of them.

I accept that he might have modified to an extent the training that the himself did in his own career, but I doubt if it was radically different or else where did he get this coaching ability from?

It seems a big difference to me, 12 seconds in the 1500m. It's the difference between an also-ran and a world record breaker.

They are only 13 years apart. Not exactly different eras.

The older brother actually came second in the African games and represented Algeria 3 times in global championships. 10 years later and I doubt if his times would have got him a place in the Algerian team.

Algeria really did progress very rapidly.

It's hard to find anything concrete about his training methods.

1991 article :

"At the press luncheon in New York, the one thing Morceli would not discuss in detail was his training. He revealed only that he had spent the three weeks leading up to the Millrose training near Mexico City, where he occasionally crossed paths with Aouita. "It made me very tough," he said of his first experiment with altitude training."

https://www.si.com/vault/1991/02/18/123645/the-best-mile-in-a-while-twenty-year-old-noureddine-morceli-of-algeria-narrowly-missed-a-world-indoor-record

I'm sure Aouita gave him a few tips.

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