Its becoming clearer and clearer that Salazar is a dirty man and so are his athletes. Vote on it. Agree or disagree? No Nike shills allowed.
I vote yes. You would have to suspend common sense to believe otherwise.
Its becoming clearer and clearer that Salazar is a dirty man and so are his athletes. Vote on it. Agree or disagree? No Nike shills allowed.
I vote yes. You would have to suspend common sense to believe otherwise.
These are adults and it is their responsibility to do their own research.
You can't cry oh daddy salazar and his doc said it's okay!
If a lawyer tells me that it isn't stealing to remove groceries from a store without paying, doesn't absolve you of your culpability.
Yes
Yes and that includes Centro, Rowbury and Hasay.
No, I like to think Alan Webb was clean.
This is why Letsrun never should have published a leaked report. Now athletes like Tara Welling, Dathan, Dawn Grunnangle, all of whom are still competing look guilty. Their name is being dragged through the a mud when it was supposed to remain private. On that note, why are people like myself willing to let them off the hook, because they claim they didn't know? Maybe Rupp is clueless too. Sad to say everything concerning NOP is STILL a gray area despite what this leaked article says.
I would like to vote No even though ignorance does not mean innocence.
Amino acids and Celebrex are serious!! They all deserve to hang for this!!
Has anyone seen an interview of Salazar or how he acts in general? He has to be one of the slimiest guys around. I always got the sense that he would do whatever it took to have the best runners and that includes risking their health with PEDs.
Yes, of course they're tainted.
Vetfried wrote:
This is why Letsrun never should have published a leaked report.
Letsrun didn't publish it.
Yes! Hasay is pathetic.
No. I think some in the outer orbits of the group probably didn't get the good stuff. But the core elite, yes.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and flies like a duck, it must be one...Everything about Salazar looks shady. He acts like a pimp, not a coach.
YES....I still hope that Dathan wasn't dirty, but I think he was probably facing a contract reduction "or else". I really wanted him to be clean.
YES.
Should Salazar be banned from the sport? YES
No
Running will certainly get a black eye if all this turns out to be true. It would be a shame if Rupp, Centro and Farah have to return their Olympic medals.
In response to your question, yes, anyone associated with Salazar will now seem tainted.
Remember when Kara Goucher was somewhat ostracized for speaking out against Salazar and the NOP? Though I'm sure she would receive no joy in watching runners lose their medals, I hope she would at least feel a little vindicated.
Vetfried wrote:
This is why Letsrun never should have published a leaked report. Now athletes like Tara Welling, Dathan, Dawn Grunnangle, all of whom are still competing look guilty. Their name is being dragged through the a mud when it was supposed to remain private. On that note, why are people like myself willing to let them off the hook, because they claim they didn't know? Maybe Rupp is clueless too. Sad to say everything concerning NOP is STILL a gray area despite what this leaked article says.
I would like to vote No even though ignorance does not mean innocence.
Letsrun publishing the report has probably had no effect on people's opinion about whether athletes like the ones you mention are guilty. Unless you're totally new to the sport you staked out your opinion on NOP long ago and the report will either anger you because it says more bad things about it, which you've already decided are untrue, or you like it because it confirms your reasons for disliking it. Or to relate things to the OP's question, if you think an athlete involved wit Salazar is tainted you already thought so before you read this report.
YES
"No Nike shills allowed."
You see my post as shilling for Nike? How so? I am not a Nike shill.
What do you mean by tainted?
I ask: did they cheat or not? With the philosophy of innocent until proven guilty. If there was proof of them cheating then they would be banned. So far, no proof, no ban. I'll spend my time worrying about people who have actually been caught doping.
And if USADA really thinks there is something there on NOP, by all means keep investigating. I can't make any new judgement of the program until there is proof of cheating. If that happens and there are bans handed out, then I can categorize them as dopers.
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon