Who is Alvina Begay?
Who is Alvina Begay?
wejo wrote:
anacondarunner wrote:Wejo- the suspicious test result was reported in the Der Spiegel article about NOP from March. Center also had a suspicious result as well.
Here is the Der Spiegel article:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/is-nike-covering-up-dubious-practices-of-runners-a-1137229.htmlDer Spiegel had access to the 269 page report and you can tell emails as well. A bit surprised Fancy Bears didn't release everything publicly but maybe it is in their repository somewhere.
From Der Spiegel:
"On Jan. 14, 2016, USADA's science director, Matthew Fedoruk, received an email from his test results division. In it, a USADA employee noted of a test on Rupp that "T/E is elevated compared to athlete's previous pattern in samples." A strong imbalance between testosterone and epitestosterone is considered an indicator of possible doping. Fedoruk ordered further tests, but the outcome of those tests is not known. Rupp claims he has never taken testosterone.
A few weeks before the Olympic Games in Rio, USADA employees emailed back and forth about a sample provided by Centrowitz. At issue was his hemoglobin value and reticulocyte count. In a June 15, 2016 email, a USADA scientist wrote that the sample exhibited a "suspicious profile." The investigators agreed to test Centrowitz again "in the next week or two." The emails do not provide any indication of whether that happened."
I'm surprised that the Russians aren't all over this. This sounds alot like the reports from the Sunday Times about suspicious blood values. Perhaps Centro and Rupp will be viewed like Paula in ten years time
um yuppers wrote:
This is what got me the most out of all of this. Adam Goucher went to Dr. Brown. Solinsky went to Dr. Brown. Hall went to Dr. Brown. Was there anyone good who WASN'T going to him???
Multiple pro athletes all traveling to see the same endocrinologist is a red flag to me. To be sure, it's not proof of anything.
And yes, top athletes often seek out the same orthopedic surgeon, which makes good sense. But endocrinology? Different story.
Here's my understanding of it:
There are substances banned unless the athlete has a TUE for a legit medical reason to be taking that substance.
Likewise, there are substances which in smaller doses are not banned outright but over certain amounts require the TUE.
The L-carnitine infusions appear to be over the amounts where they would not require the scrutiny of a TUE, which if they were, puts them into the same regulatory territory as a banned substance without a TUE. Same difference. The dose makes the toxic, or, in this case, the medicine.
most of the world wrote:
Yawn. Until I see a report that implicates FARAH as a definite doper, I don't really care. HE is the REAL world-beater. No one else. And his transformation was greater than all the others at NOP. At least Galen, Shannon, Centro, Ritz, etc. had well-established talent. Mo was less and turned into someone with more medals than Geb. Yet he seems grossly under-mentioned in this report. I'm more outraged by this than anything else.
UK ATHLETICS Pointed out he never trained all that well/consistent, never went to camps, no core/weights, no group...AND Still Ran 13:05@25! 27yrs, At the urging of UK ATHLETICS comes to the States to train with a group/core/specific wo.
Hey128 wrote:
Who is Alvina Begay?
One of Salazar's Guinea Pigs. He has several.
Fatsoluble wrote:
most of the world wrote:Yawn. Until I see a report that implicates FARAH as a definite doper, I don't really care. HE is the REAL world-beater. No one else. And his transformation was greater than all the others at NOP. At least Galen, Shannon, Centro, Ritz, etc. had well-established talent. Mo was less and turned into someone with more medals than Geb. Yet he seems grossly under-mentioned in this report. I'm more outraged by this than anything else.
UK ATHLETICS Pointed out he never trained all that well/consistent, never went to camps, no core/weights, no group...AND Still Ran 13:05@25! 27yrs, At the urging of UK ATHLETICS comes to the States to train with a group/core/specific wo.
We all know Mo's story about press ups making him a super-runner.
Fatsoluble wrote:
most of the world wrote:Yawn. Until I see a report that implicates FARAH as a definite doper, I don't really care. HE is the REAL world-beater. No one else. And his transformation was greater than all the others at NOP. At least Galen, Shannon, Centro, Ritz, etc. had well-established talent. Mo was less and turned into someone with more medals than Geb. Yet he seems grossly under-mentioned in this report. I'm more outraged by this than anything else.
UK ATHLETICS Pointed out he never trained all that well/consistent, never went to camps, no core/weights, no group...AND Still Ran 13:05@25! 27yrs, At the urging of UK ATHLETICS comes to the States to train with a group/core/specific wo.
Sir Mo Farah likes to do High-Volume-High-Intensity Training at High Altitude with Hills and Heavy Squats…in Flagstaff, Arizona.
For example, here is a recent video of Sir Mo doing some high-intensity training here in Flagstaff on a nice sunny day...with no worries:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUcVZPcgJTk/?taken-by=gomofarahSir Mo is ready to Mobiliterate all the other 5000m runners on this planet at the Prefontaine meet this coming Saturday.
That will be fun for Mo... and not that fun for all the other runners in the race.
This is not a big surprise.
I have been asking this question about how prevalent this is among runners. It seems odd to have Salazar's athletes take all the heat for seeing Dr Brown or thyroid drug use when others may be doing the same. There seems to be a split opinion on L- Cart. That sounds like a technical violation but I could be wrong.And the testosterone stuff seems to be disputed with no resolution forthcoming.
Cytomelist wrote:
Everyone is missing an important point here. It looks like every top US runner is on thyroid.
Not really surprised that Wetmore has been on the thyroid for a long time, you just have to look at Simpson and Coburn in Rio to see what's up.
Tygart?
doctorj wrote:
how about that wrote:Nice to see LetsRun taking a journalistic approach on this, summarizing facts and putting them in thoughtful context, versus their previous fox news approach of lynch-mob outrage and name calling.
I'm honestly surprised. Keep it up LetsRun.
Bottom line is eventually someone will have to take the fall for this scandal. Who do you think it will be? My bet is Nike will give Salazar the boot just like they did with Lance.
Is this sunmary right? wrote:
I have been asking this question about how prevalent this is among runners. It seems odd to have Salazar's athletes take all the heat for seeing Dr Brown or thyroid drug use when others may be doing the same.
How is it odd that doping allegations against the highest-profile training group in the country get the most attention?
rojo wrote:
most of the world wrote:Yawn. Until I see a report that implicates FARAH as a definite doper, I don't really care. HE is the REAL world-beater. No one else. And his transformation was greater than all the others at NOP. At least Galen, Shannon, Centro, Ritz, etc. had well-established talent. Mo was less and turned into someone with more medals than Geb. Yet he seems grossly under-mentioned in this report. I'm more outraged by this than anything else.
You do realize that Farah had run 12:57.94 before joining the NOP?
So he was better and more accomplished than Ritz and Rupp.
This is correct, Mo knew Jama prior to hooking up with Salazar. He was also traveling to Kenya and Ethiopia for long "training camps" prior to joining NOP. Perhaps they also to l-carnitine and vitamin D infusions in remote parts of Ethiopia. We'll have to ask Barry Fudge, oh that's right Fudge was also doing them.
Press Ups wrote:
We all know Mo's story about press ups making him a super-runner.
They are the sissy English way of doing push-ups so it may be true. He got really skinny and weak as a result.
SkyRunner.FlagstaffRunnerTeamâ„¢ wrote:
Join the club, bro wrote:You are hardly alone. I have talked to lots of professional baseball or football players. I have yet to meet one who has read the rule book. Yet they are all sure they know the rules.
From your grammar, I can't tell if you've started paying attention to the doping code. Have you?
Did you see this part???
From USADA - "Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin cocktails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons.
"This medical practice is PROHIBITED at all times without prior TUE approval."
(NONE of the NOP athletes had a TUE for the IV L-carnitine infusions. Alberto told the athletes to keep the IV infusions secret. There is no information in the medical records of any of the 5 athletes to indicate the quantity of L-carnitine given in the IV infusions either in terms of total amount of L-carnitine or by the concentration of the infusion (mg of L-carnitine/mL).
There is also nothing in the medical records about the total volume of the L-carnitine IV infusions in all 5 NOP athletes.
It is just a coincidence that in all 5 athletes this important information is missing in their medical records.
It is also just a coincidence that Dr. Brown altered the medical records of Dathan Ritzenhein by later removing a page which had information on the L-carnitine infusion and adding a notation of "40 mL" to his medical record.
Why did Dr. Brown do that?
It is also just a coincidence that the British doctor who administered the L-carnitine IV infusion to Mo Farah in April 2014 before the London marathon also DID NOT RECORD the amount of L-carnitine administered or the total volume of the IV L-carnitine infusion in the medical records of Mo Farah. Dr. Chakraverty administered the L-carnitine infusion protocol that was given to the head of UK Athletics Barry Fudge by Alberto Salazar.
When he was questioned about this, Dr. Chakraverty stated that he was busy and did not remember to record it in the medical records of Mo Farah.
It turns out that Dr. Chakraverty has a really bad memory and forgot to record this information in the medical records of Mo Farah.
However, Dr. Chakraverty could remember that the L-carnitine IV infusion given to Mo Farah…was exactly 13.5 mL…but with no information on the concentration of the infusion or the total amount of L-carnitine administered to Mo Farah in the IV infusion.
Dr. Chakraverty could remember that he administered exactly 13.5 mL of an IV infusion of an unknown amount of L-carnitine to Mo Farah…and then did not remember to record it in the medical records of Mo Farah.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/39627807It turns out that Dr. Chakraverty has a really good memory and a really bad memory…all at the same time.
Dr. Brown also has a really bad memory and forgot to record the total quantity of L-carnitine or the volume of the L-carnitine IV infusions in all 5 NOP athletes.
OK???
There is nothing to see here.
It is just a coincidence.
They should go back and see how many times these Drs forgot to put in the numbers for IVs that were not from NOP! So is it only the NOP atheletes that never had the documentation.
A Florida Coach wrote:
Here's my understanding of it:
There are substances banned unless the athlete has a TUE for a legit medical reason to be taking that substance.
Likewise, there are substances which in smaller doses are not banned outright but over certain amounts require the TUE.
The L-carnitine infusions appear to be over the amounts where they would not require the scrutiny of a TUE, which if they were, puts them into the same regulatory territory as a banned substance without a TUE. Same difference. The dose makes the toxic, or, in this case, the medicine.
L Carnitine is not banned in any amount and does not require a TUE for any amount. Infusions of greater than 50 ml every 6 hours are banned without a TUE.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
L Carnitine is not banned in any amount and does not require a TUE for any amount. Infusions of greater than 50 ml every 6 hours are banned without a TUE.
Yes - this is really not that complicated, and directly spelled out in the Code. Hard to believe that Ritz and Co. did not know that, and were unable to read it.
Also interesting is the timeline here: USADA is convinced that Rupp used this Prohibited Method in January 2012. Quite likely then that he will have to return his silver medal, even if USATF/WADA/CAS treat it as a minor violation and give him only a one year ban.
Or one goes with the hypothesis that USADA consists of a bunch of corrupt liars or incompetent idiots.
Neither outcome is particularly helpful for our reputation.
There were 4 x 100 mL L-carnitine IV bags prepared at the pharmacy the day before the infusion. The worksheet showed that they were prepared with a concentration of 9.67 grams of L-carnitine/45 mL of saline = 0.2149 grams per mL = 214.9 mg/mL.
An IV infusion of just 1 of the 100 mL bags would be a total dose of 21.49 grams (= 21,490 mg) of L-carnitine. They administered 1 to 4 bags total.
A 100 mL IV of any concentration or dose of L-carnitine without a TUE is an anti-doping rule violation.
A typical IV dose of L-carnitine is 50 mg/kg. = 3,000 mg total dose for a 60 kg. person. It can be given by a slow IV injection over 2 to 3 minutes from a large syringe. The dose of 3,000 mg is only a 15 mL injection of L-carnitine at 200 mg/mL. There is no need for an IV bag and an infusion that lasts over an hour.
However, L-carnitine can be stored for 24 hours with saline in an IV bag and given as a slower IV infusion at a maximum concentration of 8 mg/mL.
The concentration of the L-carnitine IV infusion administered by Dr. Brown was 214.9 mg/mL…which is 26.9X the maximum concentration of 8 mg/mL.
Did Alberto and Dr. Brown inform the 5 NOP athletes that the concentration was 26.9X greater than the maximum concentration for an L-carnitine IV infusion?
Did they inform the 5 NOP athletes of any possible risks or side effects of the L-carnitine infusions?
Did they inform the 5 NOP athletes that the L-carnitine infusions were over the 50 mL limit... without a TUE…and were ADRVs?
It is recommended that a plasma carnitine concentration be obtained prior to beginning this parenteral therapy. Weekly and monthly monitoring is recommended as well. This monitoring should include blood chemistries, vital signs, plasma carnitine concentrations (the plasma free carnitine concentration should be between 35 and 60 μmol/L) and overall clinical condition.
Some of the NOP athletes had extremely high plasma carnitine concentrations of over 2,000 micromol/L after the IV L-carnitine infusions administered by Dr. Brown for COACH Alberto Salazar.
Levocarnitine Injection, USP is compatible and stable when mixed in parenteral solutions of Sodium Chloride 0.9% or Lactated Ringer's in concentrations ranging from 250 mg/500 mL (0.5 mg/mL) to 4200 mg/500 mL (8.0 mg/mL) and stored at room temperature (25°C) for up to 24 hours in PVC plastic bags.
https://www.drugs.com/pro/levocarnitine-injection.html
In conclusion:
1) COACH Alberto Salazar is not a doctor and needs to be STOPPED.
Can someone please explain, in simple terms, why large infusions of L-carnitine are banned in the first place?
themanontherun wrote:
Can someone please explain, in simple terms, why large infusions of L-carnitine are banned in the first place?
L-Carnitine is not banned. It does not matter how large it is.
Infusions of greater than 50ml in a 6 hour period are banned. Here is the complete text from the WADA section under chemical and physical manipulation. I'm including the whole section for context, but 2. is the relevant section:
CHEMICAL AND PHYSICAL
MANIPULATION
The following are prohibited:
1. Tampering, or Attempting to Tamper, to alter the
integrity and validity of Samples collected during
Doping Control.
Including, but not limited to:
Urine substitution and/or adulteration, e.g. proteases.
2. Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than
50 mL per 6 hour period except for those legitimately
received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical
procedures or clinical investigations.
rojo wrote:
most of the world wrote:Yawn. Until I see a report that implicates FARAH as a definite doper, I don't really care. HE is the REAL world-beater. No one else. And his transformation was greater than all the others at NOP. At least Galen, Shannon, Centro, Ritz, etc. had well-established talent. Mo was less and turned into someone with more medals than Geb. Yet he seems grossly under-mentioned in this report. I'm more outraged by this than anything else.
You do realize that Farah had run 12:57.94 before joining the NOP?
So he was better and more accomplished than Ritz and Rupp.
A lot of people ignore this, he was also in medal contention with 200m to go in 2009 world champs 5k, up against the defending world champ and the greatest runner of alltime maybe in his best shape ever.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing