I actually think Wilson Kipsang could break 2 hours

Dingler wrote:

justsomespectator wrote:

You're forgetting a guy who ran 2:03:03 on a legal course fairly recently.

He's also DNF'ed and run 2:05:57 since then (and yes, I know he was trampled in the former and had blisters in the latter). But if I'm putting money on Bekele vs. Kipchoge I'm betting the farm on Kipchoge.

For me it would depend on the training leading up. If you asked me who would win London next year and told me Kipchoge and Bekele were racing, I'd bet Kipchoge every time.

However, if you told me that Bekele was going to have a solid 12 months and 2 cycles of training leading up to London with no injuries...then I would probably bet on Bekele.

Bekele is inconsistent because even if your KB it's hard to take 2 months off, jog for 4-6 weeks, and expect to win the worlds most competitive marathons.

LM wrote:

Dingler wrote:

He's also DNF'ed and run 2:05:57 since then (and yes, I know he was trampled in the former and had blisters in the latter). But if I'm putting money on Bekele vs. Kipchoge I'm betting the farm on Kipchoge.

For me it would depend on the training leading up. If you asked me who would win London next year and told me Kipchoge and Bekele were racing, I'd bet Kipchoge every time.

However, if you told me that Bekele was going to have a solid 12 months and 2 cycles of training leading up to London with no injuries...then I would probably bet on Bekele.

Bekele is inconsistent because even if your KB it's hard to take 2 months off, jog for 4-6 weeks, and expect to win the worlds most competitive marathons.

That's not our problem! One of the elements of being a great runner is staying healthy, which Bekele cannot do. That means he is not a smart runner, because he has yet to make the adjustments to stay healthy. He is too aggressive as a runner, and it is killing his career. He tries to run each marathon as if he is still on the track, straight balls to the wall. Maybe he can get away with that one out of every 4 marathons, and produce something like he did in Berlin. But it will put him back 3 steps each time, which is one of the reasons he ran 2:05 in London. ( I'm not buying that blister excuse).

NativeSon wrote:

I don't think so.

I don't even think Bekele could break it.

Kipchoge is the man. He might give the world record a stab in Berlin in November (if he doesn't run in London).

Kind of a weird post^

He could run both, of course.

Kipsang could be very much in the hunt for sub-2:00 but it wouldn't have fit the Nike ad we watched yesterday. By any logical assessment he is in the same class.

LetsRun is saying "this proves Kipchoge is the best"...huh? Circular argument. Nobody else near his ability had the same opportunity.

Kipsang and Kimetto and Mutai are all Adidas athletes.

Bekele was too chicken.

Berlin will be great. To runners this will redefine limits and we will see both spectacular opening splits and spectacular blow-ups in the near future.

News from Rift Valley wrote:

Maybe you don't know the current situation of Adidas athletes : Geoffrey Mutai is in the last part of his career, and full of injuries, Dennis Kimetto is injured and not able to go back in tough training, Emmanuel Mutai seems to have lose power in his engine... Of course, with these athletes (and their real age...), nobody can hope there are chances to run under 2 hours !

True about G Mutai and Kimetto.

Incorrect vague statement about E Mutai.

The 5 discussed here have all been in 2:03-low shape.

Kipsang and E Mutai are currently on E Kipchoge level.

LM wrote:

Bekele is only inconsistent because he can never get in good training...

But the ability to train will is an important part of performance. We can all say "I'd be better if I could train better"...