Thanks for the input as always Renato!!
That last 100m was something I have never seen in a "fast" 3K. Unreal.
Sorry Renato, but a couple of those splits are a bit out. Using hand timing down on the track will not be as accurate as using video analysis of the race.
Renato Canova wrote:
So, his times are as follows :
last 400m in 54"7
last 300m in 40"3
last 200m in 26"5
last 100m in 12"7
this was a sensational run for a 1500'er !!!
Renato Canova wrote:
Last year, he won the only 10000m of his life (27'33"94 at the end of November in Japan) with the last 200m in 24"6 (he was behind James Wangari with 200m to go, and gave him a gap of 4.6 seconds)
Usually wrong! More like 99% wrong.
Peppers pot wrote:
You boast of an experienced eye and you assert that Kwemoi can break records from 1000m to 3000m. However, you have have said this about MANY athletes and you are usually WRONG. Kwemoi ran a nice 3000m but it was no more impressive than what Alamirew, for example, has done. Kwemoi is very good but he has no chance at setting any world records. That does not mean he cannot be a champion, however.
he certainly can
Peppers pot wrote:Calculo
You boast of an experienced eye and you assert that Kwemoi can break records from 1000m to 3000m
very little chance of "perfect run" nowdays with peanuts paid to pacers & therefore rubbish pacers
However, you have have said this about MANY athletes and you are usually WRONG
is this a joke ???
Kwemoi ran a nice 3000m but it was no more impressive than what Alamirew, for example, has done
& what analysis are you offering ???
Kwemoi is very good but he has no chance at setting any world records
i have no interest if he wins a gold
That does not mean he cannot be a champion, however
depends on conditions/pacing
Noble Kane wrote:Usually wrong! More like 99% wrong
many never tried such as hicham/Bernie/Noah/Silas at their peak
If you listen to him then about 2 dozen middle distance guys have been capable of 1:41 for 800, and havve only not done so for a myriad of lame excuses
is this a joke ?
His 'experienced eye' is a joke. He couldn't even locate the start line of a 1500m race the other year in France when Iguider set the world lead.
i suggest you learn logic
JRinaldi wrote:You've got him running anywhere between 1:41.84 to 1:43.41
i've seen a 1'49.7 in march last year at altitude when obviously just using this as a training run
yet he only managed to run 1:48
i don't know which race this is
and was run out in the heats at the AK champs last year running 4th in 1:51
because if you can run
How has this guy suddenly morphed in to a 1:42 man?
I think you've truely over estimated his 400m speed is likely to be 48.5 at best..
and means he is not close to 1500m WR shape
Sir Mo was Mobliterated by the speedy Scot Callum Hawkins at a cross country race earlier this year. The pudgy, lazy and out-of-shape SlowMo was left muddy in a ditch by the side of the trail.
tony the tiger wrote:
Here we go again ..
When will you guys ever learn ?
the same story every single year ..
This dude is gonna smoke Mo , that dude will make him beg for mercy ..blah blah blah blah
Mo Farah is the best distance runner in the world at the moment , its a FACT !
Keep it up tho, this is entertaining AF LOL
zxvxzcv wrote:This may be your most ridiculous claim yet, that Kwemoi is in shape to break the 1k/1500m/mile/3k records based on one very good 100m in a 7:28.73 race that was 8 seconds off the world record.
Hand timing is always going to be about 0.2 secs out. If you are on the infield or even in the stands of the stadium, you are never going to be able to be right on the 100m from home line and the finish line to take an accurate split.
Hand-timing at the track is going to be more accurate than on a video because the video usually does not allow you to see exactly when they are crossing a line. Perspective is going to cause errors.
The correct number is 3:24.9 by Jim Ryun.
calculo wrote:JRinaldi wrote:Sorry - the 1:48 was a typo, should have read 1:49 (1:49.7 as you stated)type better
what is this joke about 1'51 for 4th in some prelim & not making finals ???
what is this rubbish ???admirable
I've run 30x200 as a workout many times
were the initial 29 as averagely quick as Ronnie ???
were they run with same rest interval ???
did you after same average as Ronnie for those 29 efforts finish off with a 23.3 ???i'm sure ever semi-elite & his dog have run 30 x 200
so I know exactly what is needed to complete such a session
how many averaged same as Ronnie for initial 29 with same rest interval & finished off with a 23.3 ???is this a joke ???
and the 23.3 at the end doesn't indicate to me that he can run 47.0
at brutal altitude, where this is basically an anaerobic exercise
with little rest, he averages impressive 29 reps then finishes it off with a 23.3 !!!
& you think your "experience" doesn't get him a < 48 for a fully rested 1-off at sea-level ???
i ask logic of you
what last 200 did he need to make it impossible for him NOT to have < 48 ???is this a joke ???
We don't know for a fact that he was 18y, nor his lifetime mileage to date when he ran that time, so you're comments have no foundation to make a conclusive comment on
he ran 3'28.8 in '14
his clockings only go back to '13 with some 3'45 rubbish
if he is 25y or such, why was he running rubbish 3'45 year before 3'28 ???
he couda made truck loads of $$$ if he'd turned up in 3'28 shape in '11 or '12, perhaps even a 1500 gold in '12
so why not compete earlier ???
how is it possible to go from 3'45 to 3'28 in a year if you are not a kid & no serious interest before that 3'45 ?is this a joke ???
I'll stand by my estimate that he can not run any quicker than 48.5 out of blocks for a 400 (fully rested if you so wish)
have you ever run that average workout for 29 reps with same rest interval then finished with 23.3 ???
i will not ask you if you did such at brutal wrecking altitude as not likely
fully rested outta blocks is only interest
back to logic :
what is the slowest last 200 after 29 in his legs of impressive numbers with same interval at brutal altitude, brutal altitude which only may help a 1-off sprint, but not huge numbers of reps, to indicate intrinsic
if not 23.3, then what is the number ???