Ann Coulter cancelled--Free Speech just died

Democrats prefer fugly women like cankles Clinton, Sonia sofatsenor, Elena "pat" kagan, Maxine waters, etc.

Shamika wrote:Can Leftist malcontents be ANY MORE hypocritical??

Oh heck yeah, you ain't seen nuthin yet. It can and will get much worse from here.

The First Amendment guarantees the right to free speech. It does not guarantee the right to a forum, an audience, an honorarium, etc. Coulter's free to say or write anything she wants and institutions and media outlets are free to give her a place to speak or not or publish what she's written or not. Catholic universities have a long history of not allowing abortion rights types to speak on their campuses. The American Legion isn't likely to have Jane Fonda as the keynote speaker at an annual convention. Free speech is fine.

I am a diehard leftist and I loathe Ann Coulter. Cancelling her speech is a travesty. These morans who refuse to let people share their ideas in a free and open society are doing far more damage than they realize. Protest? Sure. But listen to what she says and ARGUE effectively against her position. Don't shut her down.

They sure can. They could fire people or refuse to serve customers based on their sexual preference and use religion as their pitiful justification. They could vote to deny minorities their constitutionally protected right to vote, they can try to take healthcare away from people to pay for an unnecessary wall and more unnecessary corporate tax cuts, they can obsess about investigations like BENGAHZi which turned up NOTHING and then complAin about investigations into Trump's ties to Russia.

You know, thaings that right-wingers do ALL THE TIME.

Ahem, she wasn't speaking for free. She was doing it to make money.

Bye, M-shark.

I'm not following. She's forbidden from speaking anywhere about anything?

I'm shocked that some wacky conservative is disinvited from an institution that encourages rational thought.

Good thing hundreds of geoarcheologist have spoken at creationist universities.

You could've at least changed the Breitbart headline wording a little

Letsrun... home of runners and the alt-right

Why are there so many right wing posts on this message board??? Why are there politics at all?

Free Speakers wrote:

Ahem, she wasn't speaking for free. She was doing it to make money.

good one

Silent-majorities wrote:

Democrats prefer fugly women like cankles Clinton, Sonia sofatsenor, Elena "pat" kagan, Maxine waters, etc.

And they bow before Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren and her Parkinson's voice. Cucks all.

Wedefinitelycan wrote:

They sure can. They could fire people or refuse to serve customers based on their sexual preference and use religion as their pitiful justification. They could vote to deny minorities their constitutionally protected right to vote, they can try to take healthcare away from people to pay for an unnecessary wall and more unnecessary corporate tax cuts, they can obsess about investigations like BENGAHZi which turned up NOTHING and then complAin about investigations into Trump's ties to Russia.

You know, thaings that right-wingers do ALL THE TIME.

Everything you just said is false.

Seriously, there are 10 million illegal immigrants from Mexico and hundreds of thousands are still crossing in the last 5 years. How is a wall unnecessary?

No one voted to deny minorities a right to vote.

Corporate tax cuts and taxing are unpredictable. Neither Democrats nor Republicans know which is necessary.

Your interppretation of firing and not serving people based on their sexual preferendes is offbase. Would you have a problem if someone refused to hire or seve murderers, drunk drivers, or loud customers? Many businesses have a sign that says "managment has the right to refuse service to anyone at their discretion".

Comparing Benghazi to Trump's Russia situation is ridiculous. People were KILLED in Benghazi. That's why it was such a big deal. No one was killed in Trump's Russia situation.

Your representation of the facts is disgusting and inaccurate. No, I'm not a Republican.

Righty Lefty wrote:

You could've at least changed the Breitbart headline wording a little

Letsrun... home of runners and the alt-right

Why are there so many right wing posts on this message board??? Why are there politics at all?

Hi LIBERAL snowflake you sound triggered!!!!

The reason the Ann Coulter speech is such a big problem is because there are alt-right groups that are showing up to try to engage in street battles with Antifa protesters. 4chan has been filled with chats by alt-right groups making plans to bring people to Berkeley to pick fights.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/04/25/new-alt-right-%E2%80%9Cfight-club%E2%80%9D-ready-street-violence

And this is not a question of the content of Coulter's speech or Milo's, it is about the character of their speech. Phyllis Schlafly and Milton Friedman used to tour college campuses and have debates with very left leaning students. Schlafly was probably politically to the right of Milo. She was very anti-LGBT rights and anti-feminism. But she packed auditoriums and never had any problems with violent protests. That is because even though I find her views to be as wrong as you can get, she was very intelligent and a very good orator. Friedman and Schlafly's college events were thick with substance and very much in line with the level of rhetoric you would expect for an advance political science lecture.

Milo and Coulter are really just at best media figures. They purposefully push boundaries in their attacks in order to provoke a backlash. They then claim to be a victim of PC run amok to further the amount of media exposure they get. So, Ann Coulter calls out 911 windows and says that she has never seen anyone enjoy their husbands deaths so much (actual quote) and then for the next few weeks she is all over the news. Milo compares black lives matter to the KKK and calls them a domestic hate group. He then gets all over the news, boosting his brand.

So, the problem with Milo and Coulter isn't that they are too conservative. The problem is that they say objectively hateful things about the people who they disagree with. When confronted, they play victim and blame PC culture.

If you are a student at a college, your choice is to either let Coulter and Milo spread their very hateful message at your school and have that kind of rhetoric become the new normal or you can try to shut them down and protect your school from being complicit in elevating hate speech to an accepted means of public discourse.

Hopefully a group of conservative students at Berkely will succeed in suing that fascist university for "failing to provide an academic environment that promotes free debate and the free exchange of ideas, which students were promised at the time of their enrollment."

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/04/24/college-republicans-yaf-sue-uc-berkeley-over-ann-coulter-event/

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

I'm not following. She's forbidden from speaking anywhere about anything?

I'm shocked that some wacky conservative is disinvited from an institution that encourages rational thought.

Good thing hundreds of geoarcheologist have spoken at creationist universities.

The university didn't invite her, a student group did. And the PUBLIC university (a state actor for First Amendment purposes) said that she couldn't come to speak in a public forum, where every other student group gets to invite speakers of all stripes, based merely on the content or possible content of her speech. That's viewpoint-based discrimination, and it's blatantly unconstitutional. It doesn't matter that the explanation was that other people might want to do her harm. That's just a heckler's veto, and it's the responsibility of the authorities to protect the unpopular speaker, not to appease violent criminal thugs by silencing her for them.

Admittedly, it does seem like the University equivocated somewhat. Not clear if they really said she couldn't come or if they were just asking for more time to prepare. Also, it seems that she ultimately canceled a planned appearance herself over safety concerns. Hard to say if that's really the death of free speech or just a publicity stunt to bring more heat on the school.

Righty Lefty wrote:

You could've at least changed the Breitbart headline wording a little

Letsrun... home of runners and the alt-right

Why are there so many right wing posts on this message board??? Why are there politics at all?

You can't ask these types of people to do any thinking of their own.

Earl Warren wrote:

The First Amendment guarantees the right to free speech. It does not guarantee the right to a forum, an audience, an honorarium, etc. Coulter's free to say or write anything she wants and institutions and media outlets are free to give her a place to speak or not or publish what she's written or not. Catholic universities have a long history of not allowing abortion rights types to speak on their campuses. The American Legion isn't likely to have Jane Fonda as the keynote speaker at an annual convention. Free speech is fine.

While free speech doesn't guarantee the right to be invited to speak on college campuses, the fact that college campuses are so hostile to non-leftist views reflects a very dark cultural and intellectual state of affairs.

Shamika wrote:

She would literally have to take her own life in her hands to give a speech

Doesn't this apply to 99.9999% of the population?