Are 600m time trials useful for 800m predictor/training?

You might could run 2:25 with competition.

Thanks for the estimate friend, I'd be very happy with that time! Anyone else agree or have any other input? I would also love to know if there's a formula or systematic way to use 600m time to predict an 800

Multiply by 1.4.

Since yours is 107x1.4, I would wager that you can squeak under 2:30 et Cerberus paribim. But you can definitely run faster with competition, as other posters have noted.

Be patient! Your times won't get better unless you try harder 💛

Yeah you can spank me wrote:

Hi guys, I know I'm slow but I just ran 1:47 for 600m. What time do you guys think that converts to for 800m?

If you can run a 600m time trial, why not just go run a 800m time trial? Then there would be no questions and no guessing.

When already racing, I would focus on finetuning than doing race spesific time trials trying to convince yourself that you´re in shape. Like if you feel the first lap is hard to go relaxed and fast then could try to sharpen the anaerobic system a bit while maintaining endurance, if otherwise around then more workouts and runs for aerobic endurance. Too much races and time trials and you easily weaken the aerobic endurance.

Public PSA: thanks for the answer man, I certainly hope you're right! And I definitely acknowledge that it pays to be patient, I've been running around 10 months w/ very low mileage (

That's a great point man thank you for mentioning it; will keep that in mind :)

I guess my post got cut off, either way, appreciate the insight and the comments!

wwne: 800 is too stressful 4 days out from my next race, so I just did 600 so I could get an idea of how to pace myself in the race as I'd have an idea of my fitness.

While it does somewhat show your ability, the 600m is where the real aerobic component of the 800 shows up. If you are a pure sprinter(200-400m)you can usually run a quick 600 but die afterwards.

I.E. - I know someone who ran a 1:14 660 but only ran 1:51 880.

The 'official' conversion factor is 1.38, so your time would equate to 2:27.66. However, with competition you might be capable of several seconds faster.

RejectRunner wrote:

I.E. - I know someone who ran a 1:14 660 but only ran 1:51 880.

No you don't, troll.

Why don't you just run 800m and find out how fast you can run it??

Sprinter here, can definitely put together a way faster 600TT than an 800m. could run 1:25, but still around a 2:08 800m.

To all the posters talking about trialing an 800: he wants to know what he can RACE, not time trial. Two completely different things.

I have run dozens of solo 600 TTs and they usually predict my race fitness within a second (just extrapolating the same pace, no conversion factors). Depending on how you respond to race conditions, YMMV.

BTW a great but hard strength session is: 600TT, 6 min rest, 400 hard, 4 min rest, 300 hard, 3 min rest, 200 hard, 2 min rest, 100. All at race date pace, except the 400 is usually a second or two slower. Really dials in the ace and effort, but don't do within a week of goal race.

I don't think it's a great predictor but it is good preparation for the 800. All the strength work early in the season coupled with 500s then 600s then 500 or 600 with a short rest followed by a 200 will prepare you for the 800.

Really appreciate all the help guys.

quick update since I know some people like it when predictor/training threads are updated with the eventual times (even hobby jogger times lol)

Both races were with my 3 friends,who are considerably faster than me. The first one on the 28th got botched by a big group of walkers on the track so we just did a 600m again and I ran 1:45.68. This was pretty much all out.

We did the second race on the 2nd of May and I ended up running 2:25.88. Was really happy with that, but I think I got pulled through too fast on the 400m mark, went out in 68 haha and got to 600 in just under 1:47. Maybe with a bit of a slower start I might've been able to go a tad faster, but I can't say for sure.

Anyways, will be starting base building to eventually run a faster 800/1600, thanks again for the help gentlemen(and ladies?). I'll be creeping around here and on this thread and might update it again to benefit from the collective wisdom you folks have :)

Gee Coach wrote:

Why don't you just run 800m and find out how fast you can run it??

Well, maybe because a *solo* 600 is a better indicator of one's potential in a *competition* 800 than a *solo* 800 would be.

Are you really that moronic? Do you really know so little about our sport?