WEJO - PAULA CLAIMS SHE DIDN'T HAVE 'PACERS'

This article came out before the race...http://www.voanews.com/a/a-13-a-2003-04-12-38-controversy/395638.html

Star wrote:

Then her record is BS.

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Who were these male races competing against if they didn't start with the men?

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But with Paula's London record, how did any men start with the women when the men had a different start time?

Footstrike wrote:

I'm not surprised by Paula remark. Professional athletes are competitive ego maniacs- all of them. They all want fame and glory as much as possible. If they weren't like that, they could never win a race. Humble people feel uncomfortable competing other people. They feel uncomfortable standing high on podiums, they feel uncomfortable having cameras on them and seeing themselves on tv and magazines. Off course, there are some that pretend to be and act like they are, but deep down they are too competitive ego maniacs, and if they weren't, they wouldn't be able to win competitions. All of them, including the so called humbled Kenyans and Ethiopians. It's the deeds that make one humble, not his words.

Naturally this leads to doping.

So the article says Paula wanted to run in the men's race so it would be easier for her. The RD said "no dice" but created a "mixed gender" race specifically for her, with men tasked with running 2:16. And now she claims that there were just a few men around her and they weren't any help at all.

Paula, you are pathological liar.

And rekrunner, you have just proven you're not Paula's husband. Unless you're divorcing her because she's no longer the WR holder. That wouldn't be the case, would it?

analyzer wrote:

Naturally this leads to doping.

Naturally. In particular since the IAAF (and certain if not all NADOs) has a history of closing both eyes and/or accepting bribes, and the testing isn't exactly effective, and test evasion gets accepted with virtually any excuse (couldn't hear the doorbell, coincidentally walked passed the security control while waiting for the tester at the airport). And even positive tests get openly excused (it was in the toothpaste (accepted by Dieter's NADO but not by CAS), it was in the meat, it was in the supplement, it was in the saliva of a hooker).

Obvious problem is obvious wrote:

Paula, you are pathological liar.

Of course. But that has been established years ago.

On the other hand, it comes with the job, meaning many other elite athletes are like that too. Jeptoo, Jemima, Farah, Armstrong, Jones, Gatlin, Gay, ...

BINGO! This poster nailed it. I've been next to people faster than me in races and they didn't make me run faster. If they were in front and drafting, that's different. But they were off to her side, not PULLING her along. You guys are all simply jealous of what she did that day. Shame on you.

Vote 4 Paula now wrote:

BINGO! This poster nailed it. I've been next to people faster than me in races and they didn't make me run faster. If they were in front and drafting, that's different. But they were off to her side, not PULLING her along. You guys are all simply jealous of what she did that day. Shame on you.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say I know you are trolling (instead of calling you dishonest or dumb), however, I must point out, AGAIN, did you watch most of the video???

a) having people run the pace you want and give you company/ someone to chase, yes, absolutely helps. Pacing is not ONLY about drafting.

b) at MANY points in the race, especially the second half of the race, Paula is following directly in the footsteps of HER PACERS. She is drafting off of them.

You (and rojo) are wrong.

Wejo is guily of mansplaining the pace to Paula. A powerful woman like her doesn't need a man's help, physically explaining the pace to her. I'm deeply offended and outraged

Run007xx wrote:

The Kenyan athletic federation is calling Keiteny the world record holder... they're not specifying the 'women's only'.

Nuculear option wrote:

Coe will launch a retaliatory strike against this transgression. Standards must be upheld, and royalty must be respected.

How that POS got to be head of the IAAF is a travesty.

Paula's Monaco neighbour wrote:

I have it on good authority that Paula reads these threads, and they disturb her to the very core of her being. She has even petitioned the brojos to release identities of posters so she can sue them.

But there turned out to be wayyyyy too many of them.

rekrunner wrote:

This article came out before the race...

http://www.voanews.com/a/a-13-a-2003-04-12-38-controversy/395638.html

Star wrote:

Then her record is BS.

...

Who were these male races competing against if they didn't start with the men?

...

But with Paula's London record, how did any men start with the women when the men had a different start time?

So I would still like to see results of the men who paced Paula in London.

For this to at all be legal, there must have been three official races that day.

The women's race.

The men's B race with a very small filed that ran concurrent with the women's race.

The men's A race.

The men's B race would then have to have separate results.

Were they posted?

By the book they can not be only pacers or rabbits. There is no such thing as pacers in the sport of running.

There are only competitors who can take up pacing duties.

An all in all, it's incredibly dumb to have a separate women's race from the men's race and then have men run with the women.

If they would only have kept it as an all female race that day, then whatever Paula ran would still be the undisputed women's record to this day.

I am sure she would have run under 2:17 all by herself that day or with how ever far a female pacer could have gone for her.

I don't blame Paula as much as a blame London for messing this all up for the sport for years after.

get rEAl peOpLe wrote:

Being next to someone is NOT pacing them, period. That means that Paula was then pacing Mr. Weldon. Yeah, it's true and it doesn't matter what his pr was. We are talking about what she did in that race. Running next to someone is NOT pacing them...that's a fact, not an opinion.

Running next to someone is definitely pacing them. When I pace someone I run right next to them. If they are going too fast they are in front and if they are going too slow they are behind.

If running next to people was not pacing, the sub 2 people would have pacers jump in and run beside Eliud so it would be record eligible. That is clearly illegal under the pacing rule because it is beneficial.

Ironman doesn't allow people to pace athletes on the run (other than other participants) because late in the game the urge to stop ( or slow down) is way greater if left to your own devices.

Sara Palin wrote:

get rEAl peOpLe wrote:

Being next to someone is NOT pacing them, period. That means that Paula was then pacing Mr. Weldon. Yeah, it's true and it doesn't matter what his pr was. We are talking about what she did in that race. Running next to someone is NOT pacing them...that's a fact, not an opinion.

Running next to someone is definitely pacing them. When I pace someone I run right next to them. If they are going too fast they are in front and if they are going too slow they are behind.

If running next to people was not pacing, the sub 2 people would have pacers jump in and run beside Eliud so it would be record eligible. That is clearly illegal under the pacing rule because it is beneficial.

It is probably the least legit marathon record . Watch the video, she was paced the whole race. The pacer was directed to peel off to the other side at around 2:15 with about 100 metres to the finish line.

No doubt she ran the race but she got help all the way and I've little doubt that the fact that her blood values were irregular means something other than whatever excuse she had... it makes no sense that a doped Kenyan Olympic marathon winner and a doped Russian multiple major marathon winner can't come close to her record time.

No it's not pacing. The sub 2 guys will have runners IN FRONT OF THEM, that's pacing. Running next to someone is definitely NOT pacing them. You have terrible reasoning.

Sara Palin wrote:

get rEAl peOpLe wrote:

Being next to someone is NOT pacing them, period. That means that Paula was then pacing Mr. Weldon. Yeah, it's true and it doesn't matter what his pr was. We are talking about what she did in that race. Running next to someone is NOT pacing them...that's a fact, not an opinion.

Running next to someone is definitely pacing them. When I pace someone I run right next to them. If they are going too fast they are in front and if they are going too slow they are behind.

If running next to people was not pacing, the sub 2 people would have pacers jump in and run beside Eliud so it would be record eligible. That is clearly illegal under the pacing rule because it is beneficial.

I've seen people DQ'd for having friends run alongside on the infield cheering during a track meet.

And what does that have to do with Paula Radcliffe running a 2:15 world record? And you implying she should have run the whole race by herself? Good grief!

The Nike Androgen Project wrote:

I've seen people DQ'd for having friends run alongside on the infield cheering during a track meet.

Some people need to have the difference between Pacing and Drafting explained to them. Removing one does not automatically remove the other.

But, since you want to compare apples to dirt, let's see you try to answer my next post Nike Androgen Project. Not just you, but Robert and Weldon as well. You all seem to think that she was paced with someone running next to her or slightly behind her versus in front of her.

noer of many, many thingsss wrote:

And what does that have to do with Paula Radcliffe running a 2:15 world record? And you implying she should have run the whole race by herself? Good grief!

The Nike Androgen Project wrote:

I've seen people DQ'd for having friends run alongside on the infield cheering during a track meet.