Can someone keep an eye on this guy (run across America)

I missed it--did Darren fly home to run in that? Maybe that's why he's been on the bike--tapering and all.

Lulz wrote:

Equivalence wrote:

The road to hell is paved with false equivalences.

This made my day after that awful men's 10,000 M championship.

Equivalence wrote:

Riding for 6 hours a day is aerobically equivalent to running about 25 miles a day. So you could say it's like he's running 25 miles a day. Which is 50% of what he was trying to do, which isn't bad considering he's 50 years old. The glass is half full, not half empty. And because they're taking the long way to NYC, they'll cover way more mileage than a direct route. So I think it's fair to say that he is, indeed, running across the country.

Intentions matter way more than actualities, especially when it's all equivalent. The road to hell is paved with false equivalences.

No it's not. Riding 6 hours a day with breaks is way easier than running 25 miles.

Less stress on the joints too.

He absolutely could NOT run 25 miles a day in a run across America.

He's not even cycling it. Just a few miles then jumps in the RV and fakes it.

Leave Darren Alone! wrote:

Whats the difference between marathon and ultramarathn? Just longer? Darren does triathlons too

It's very obvious you know absolutely NOTHING about running, therefore the only reason you are so determined to believe this scammer is if you know him personally, ie friend/daughter, etc.

You could find this info doing a google search.

Darren does NOT run ultra marathons (over 30 miles. Normally over 50)

Therefore it was completely impossible he could have run 50 miles EVERY DAY for weeks.

Does your tiny brain not grasp that?

He was always planning to fake it, but we caught him out and he had to switch to faking a ride instead.

All Darren does is go to the gym. That has NOTHING to do with long distance running.

There are people than can run 100 mile marathons that couldn't run for 50 miles every single day across America.

Do you not understand?

So why are you so compelled to believe this fraud?

No it's not. Riding 6 hours a day with breaks is way easier than running 25 miles.

Less stress on the joints too.

He absolutely could NOT run 25 miles a day in a run across America.

He's not even cycling it. Just a few miles then jumps in the RV and fakes it.

An obviously he is also not able to bike 75 miles on a day to day basis since Darren is again injured. But at least he has time to see some real cyclists in Knoxville this weekend for the US Championships.

Equivalence wrote:

Riding for 6 hours a day is aerobically equivalent to running about 25 miles a day. So you could say it's like he's running 25 miles a day. Which is 50% of what he was trying to do, which isn't bad considering he's 50 years old. The glass is half full, not half empty. And because they're taking the long way to NYC, they'll cover way more mileage than a direct route. So I think it's fair to say that he is, indeed, running across the country.

Intentions matter way more than actualities, especially when it's all equivalent. The road to hell is paved with false equivalences.

This is not true.

He is not running anywhere. He stopped running on day one.

His intention was the fake the entire thing and pretend he was running.

This is not true.

He is not running anywhere. He stopped running on day one.

His intention was the fake the entire thing and pretend he was running.

Darren said he ran 40-50 miles in training. If this would be true he could have run 40-50 miles on day one. That didn't happen as his 40-50 mile training run didn't happen.

All what we know is that he started cycling in Dallas, after a short gps recorded RV ride south of Nashville, he cycled east of Knoxville. Now he is injured again.

I am looking forward for his book: "Excuses and other deadly sins"

It will be available just before Christmas.

Equivalence wrote:

Riding for 6 hours a day is aerobically equivalent to running about 25 miles a day. So you could say it's like he's running 25 miles a day.

They are not even in the same ballpark when it comes to journey runs. Not even close. Moderately fit high school kids routinely ride their bikes cross country. Only the most elite journey runners are able to train their body to withstand the relentless pounding of a transcon run.

But Darren and his buddy are gym bunnies. They've been hardening their bones together for hours in the gym. I'm sure they are rigid enough to endure the pounding of 25 miles a day. It doesn't matter that they're not actually doing it. On paper they could do it, and that's what's important.

No it's not wrote:

No it's not. Riding 6 hours a day with breaks is way easier than running 25 miles.

Less stress on the joints too.

He absolutely could NOT run 25 miles a day in a run across America.

He's not even cycling it. Just a few miles then jumps in the RV and fakes it.

Leave Darren Alone! wrote:

Whats the difference between marathon and ultramarathn? Just longer? Darren does triathlons too

Since you mentioned triathlons, I'm just stopping by to mention that I've been dropping Mike Rossi's name on the triathlon forum again. It's pretty cool, everybody over there is now convinced that I'm the one who originally outed him as a cheat.

Why are the mods systematically purging this picture from the thread? Everybody loves it so.

http://i.imgur.com/y9Kmn7f.png

Who says he has to RUN the 25 miles a day? He could just walk at 4 mph for 6 hours/day, which is the same as biking 6 hours a day. My clients do ultras all the time and they walk most of the time, and nobody cares. That's what ultra running is about. Just covering the miles, moving through the landscape. Some ultra-anal LRC'ers might get upset about the distinction between walking and running, but it's all semantics.The point is, he's propelling himself across the country and it's all pretty much the same.

Yes. Also he said 40-50 miles a day but with lots of breaks (like to make the show). Not in a row. 3 days then stop. So it is possible. Someone said if he bikes 80 miles thats like running 40 that sounds right to me because running is maybe double as hard

I'm glad that finally--on page 80--some logic has finally crept into this thread. So far it's been dominated by people wanting to take this all way too literally, like it's a world record attempt or the Olympics or something.

I haven't chimed in until now, and I just want say that I agree with those saying he's doing the equivalent of running.

Remember that Darren is from SoCal, and things are pretty chill there. Running, walking, biking, taking breaks to fly home, whatever. It's all good. Dude's on a mission, and we should respect that. Why do people want to harsh on his honeymoon journey?

I think Darren is just as inspirational as that Scott Yorbic guy who hiked the appalachian trail. I mean, didn't he sleep in an RV every night too?

Now that the east coast is waking up we'll probably see a lot of hate again, but whatevs. My mind has been settled.

Equivalence wrote:

But Darren and his buddy are gym bunnies. They've been hardening their bones together for hours in the gym. I'm sure they are rigid enough to endure the pounding of 25 miles a day. It doesn't matter that they're not actually doing it. On paper they could do it, and that's what's important.

No it's not wrote:

No it's not. Riding 6 hours a day with breaks is way easier than running 25 miles.

Less stress on the joints too.

He absolutely could NOT run 25 miles a day in a run across America.

He's not even cycling it. Just a few miles then jumps in the RV and fakes it.

Nope! If you are serious and not a troll, he certainly could not run 25 miles a day for weeks.

Another who knows NOTHING about long distance running.

You could train in a gym doing weights 7 days a week, and still not be able to run even 5 miles.

It is completely different.

To run 50 miles just ONCE takes years of training.

This scammer lied he was going to run 50 miles a day for weeks.

Completely impossible.

You are talking utter nonsense and obviously are not a runner.

Yay Looks like Darreb is getting even MORE fans! Thanks everybody!

Lagos Ultra Runner Coach wrote:

Who says he has to RUN the 25 miles a day? He could just walk at 4 mph for 6 hours/day, which is the same as biking 6 hours a day. My clients do ultras all the time and they walk most of the time, and nobody cares. That's what ultra running is about. Just covering the miles, moving through the landscape. Some ultra-anal LRC'ers might get upset about the distinction between walking and running, but it's all semantics.

The point is, he's propelling himself across the country and it's all pretty much the same.

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However you cover 25 miles a day on foot it's still demanding. To walk it in just 6 hours would be tough, and to maintain that for months would be extremely hard for someone who didn't do endurance training of any kind.

He never mentioned 25 miles anyway. He boasted 50 miles a day, every day.

To do it only doing 25 miles a day would take months.

Walking in ultras happens all the time yes, but he's never done ONE ultra, yet we expected to believe he could turn himself into an ultra machine on no ultra training.

He stopped doing this trip on FOOT on day one, and has been faking a cycle ever since.

Walking 25 miles a day at that fast pace is way harder than cycling 25 miles anyway.

But he's NOT self propelling. He's riding in the RV whenever he likes.

Leave Darren Alone! wrote:

Yes. Also he said 40-50 miles a day but with lots of breaks (like to make the show). Not in a row. 3 days then stop. So it is possible. Someone said if he bikes 80 miles thats like running 40 that sounds right to me because running is maybe double as hard

Have you actually read ANY of the posts to you?

You think running three days in a row of 40 - 50 miles is easy?

Considering he's NOT even a runner???

Even those three days would be impossible, and remember he was boasting he would do this for weeks.

He couldn't do ONE day at 50 miles.

Running and cycling are totally different.

You could be a world champion cyclist at 50 mile distance, but still be unable to run even ten miles, if you didn't TRAIN to RUN.

And Darren doesn't run at all.

So these 50 mile training run boasts are BS.

"Someone said" "Someone said". I think unicorns live on the moon.

There, I said it on Lets Run. Doesn't mean it's TRUE.

No, running 40 miles is NOT the same as cycling 80.

You are so boring.

If you have no proof and think that by stating this over and over again it will make it true you are dreaming, or is it wishful thinking. Get a life or provide proof

Yawn, so boring provide proof. There must be someone who can meet him as he gets closer to heavily populated areas. But wait of you do that there will nothing more to say