Do you have a local guy who does ball busting workouts all the time but only races like 4 xs a year and i don't mean someone doing 4 marathons ? More like a 5k in January a 10k in July and 2 5ks in the fall type thing. I talking a 15:10 5k guy. Is this a good way to run or should you race all the time? How do you get better following this plan ?
Jerry's kids at Bowerman TC
No, I don't know him, but it sounds like a really crappy way to live. Workouts that hard without using them to race?! You have to be insane!
It's not normal and borderline sketchy. What kind of races is he running? Casual ones or prize money?
pas normales wrote:
No, I don't know him, but it sounds like a really crappy way to live. Workouts that hard without using them to race?! You have to be insane!
It's not normal and borderline sketchy. What kind of races is he running? Casual ones or prize money?
Races cost a lot .I know a lot of dudes like that.
Yeah, me.
Joe joe wrote:
pas normales wrote:No, I don't know him, but it sounds like a really crappy way to live. Workouts that hard without using them to race?! You have to be insane!
It's not normal and borderline sketchy. What kind of races is he running? Casual ones or prize money?
Races cost a lot .I know a lot of dudes like that.
If a 15:10 guy showed up at more local 5Ks, he'd win some of them by 5 minutes.
Joe joe wrote:
pas normales wrote:No, I don't know him, but it sounds like a really crappy way to live. Workouts that hard without using them to race?! You have to be insane!
It's not normal and borderline sketchy. What kind of races is he running? Casual ones or prize money?
Races cost a lot .I know a lot of dudes like that.
Meanwhile they are probably swimming in gadgets and multiple pairs of shoes.
Same here. Hard to get away for 2-3 hours for races with kids and work schedules. Much easier to get an hour in for a hard workout.
I don't think I do ball-busting workouts, but I put in a decent amount and quality of training and don't race much more than 4 times a year. Life gets in the way sometimes, man.
This was me...was still kind of is. Then I found when I got into an important race I didn't have any race "savvy". Making it a goal this year to race more.
100% Juiced wrote:
This was me...was still kind of is. Then I found when I got into an important race I didn't have any race "savvy". Making it a goal this year to race more.
Post college it's hard to find a schedule like you had. It's much easier on a team with a determined schedule. In the Bay Area / Nor Cal there was a race series on the road that got you out there more. But still tough.
But we get your digging at the pros. And yes they should race more and stop glorifying practice. But isn't that usatf' fault for not having a league?
LOL
Lickety Split wrote:
Jerry's kids at Bowerman TC
How many races are there in your town where a 15:10 guy would have reasonable competition?
In my town, zero. In the city 90 minutes from here, maybe one.
If the local races are small, poorly organized, don't offer prize money, and don't have accurately measured courses, it's no wonder if some people skip them, even if they enjoy racing. Maybe because they enjoy racing.
I have this problem and im a 17 minute guy. I have no desire to run a race that I'll win by minutes. It's hard to find quality races with more than 1 person under 20 minutes. Therefore, I don't race often
not a finance guy wrote:
Joe joe wrote:Races cost a lot .I know a lot of dudes like that.
If a 15:10 guy showed up at more local 5Ks, he'd win some of them by 5 minutes.
Jimmy21 wrote:
I have this problem and im a 17 minute guy. I have no desire to run a race that I'll win by minutes. It's hard to find quality races with more than 1 person under 20 minutes. Therefore, I don't race often
What? If you think you're such a fast cat at 17 minutes, why don't you find some higher quality races in your state and see how your time holds up? 🤔
messinat wrote:
I don't think I do ball-busting workouts, but I put in a decent amount and quality of training and don't race much more than 4 times a year. Life gets in the way sometimes, man.
Why work yourself hard for no payoff? Life does get in the way, I have a wife, job, and more kids than most people. I still ran dozens of races last year.
If life is that much in the way, it would be in the way of training too.
Hbbgnjlll wrote:
messinat wrote:I don't think I do ball-busting workouts, but I put in a decent amount and quality of training and don't race much more than 4 times a year. Life gets in the way sometimes, man.
Why work yourself hard for no payoff? Life does get in the way, I have a wife, job, and more kids than most people. I still ran dozens of races last year.
If life is that much in the way, it would be in the way of training too.
No it's a big difference between running a workout and a race.Workout is free .There is no stress of all that is involved with a race and it often eats up hours of you're day .Most workouts are all done in one hour or so.
Just Amazed wrote:
Jimmy21 wrote:I have this problem and im a 17 minute guy. I have no desire to run a race that I'll win by minutes. It's hard to find quality races with more than 1 person under 20 minutes. Therefore, I don't race often
What? If you think you're such a fast cat at 17 minutes, why don't you find some higher quality races in your state and see how your time holds up? 🤔
I don't think im super fast but most local races, anyone under 20 minutes will be running by themselves. I do find high quality races, they just aren't all that common. I try to only enter races that I won't be in the top 10
Old guy problems wrote:
Same here. Hard to get away for 2-3 hours for races with kids and work schedules. Much easier to get an hour in for a hard workout.
Yepppp. It's a lot to ask of the wife. It's like maybe 6 races plus a 'thon if I'm lucky.
If the local fast guys would race more, local races wouldn't have winning times of 20 minutes.
Back when I was a local fast guy, I'd habitually race 2-3 times month. Sure there were occasions when I ran alone and won by 2 minutes, but there were more where I had some guys to compete wirh. And that's why I was (and still am, although at a slower level) in the sport to start with: competition. It was never my goal to be the best at exercising.