3 hammers about to drop on Kenya

Hey mindweak, you are not only mind weak, you are totally with flat brain.

How I wrote time ago, the mother of idiots is always pregnant, but in your case it was not true you were an idiot, because also an idiot has a brain, while you are completely empty in your head.

The shame of this is, that the Kenyans and any other African country would have dominated anyway. I mean, their lifestyle alone should produce great distance runners. Add to that, they consider long distance running like we look at NBA, NFL and MLB. They look at the Boston Marathon as the pinnacle. Do we? Maybe the few runners in this country. Look at % of competitive runners in this country. Of males between ages 18 to 44, how many are there? And, of those, how many are considered "competitive? By that I mean someone who trains to become better, wins local races now and then, runs respectable times and looks forward to the competition and success.

We live a life of walking to our car, starting it, driving to work. And living a life that constantly advertises how to have an easier life and not use as much energy. Meanwhile in Kenya, young boys and girls are still walking and even jogging to school everyday, and some are even jogging home for lunch, back to school again and then to home at the end. They have a harder life and with larger numbers of people doing this one specific event, and like our basketball (because every little American kid plays basketball) they all dream of them being the next Boston Marathon champion and being a celebrity in their village or even in Kenya. What we see at the local races that give prize money of $250, are local Kenyans who are recruited and sponsored and spend almost every weekend running a race and saving their money until they can go home and pay for a farm. Owning a farm in Kenya is like being the CEO of IBM here. Owning a farm allows you financial freedoms and status in Kenya. $25000 will buy a farm and pay for several workers.

Meanwhile little Tommy is driven to the end of his driveway in America, and has a note excusing him from PE everyday. He is considered obese by the BMI index, and his parents let him play video games all day as their babysitter. Soon, the Kenyas and North Koreas of the World will be so much fitter in physical standards, they will be able to invade this country with little or no resistance because most of the obese kids are now adults who can't get out of their lazyboys.

I'm 5'10" 166 lbs. The BMI index Race director refers to, says I'm within a couple of pounds of being "overweight" and all I ever hear is how skinny I am from my co-workers and family.

I do agree with some points. I do read many articles that point out the vast differences in lifestyles between our country and the third world countries, like Kenya. Yes, many women still fetch water for the home everyday and carry it back to the home. Yes, it is almost impossible to see a fat or overweight Kenyan, in Kenya. Yes, many people from third world countries that live hear try to maintain their diet , for if they start to eat American food, and some do, they notice how increasingly slower and more fatigued they become.

And, I have also noticed that here in upper NY there are several Kenyans who live with sponsor families, and run in races everywhere for what seems like very little money. But if all they need is the $20k or so, then God bless. Good luck.

Rupp took a bronze in the race everyone wants to win. Beating lots of guys on your list including the world champ. Before that Hall did well in many majors. There are guys like Hawkins now running 60. Non-africans can compete.

And, yes, the point of my post is that there is a highly inadequate testing system. There is Jeptoo and Sumgong and you yourself seem to heavily imply that two of their training partners who won big marathons might be doping as well.

What are you saying? Only the women would cheat?

CO Beefeater wrote:

Only if he started training wtih Canova could he go much faster. Even then, he's too damn big compared to his faster competitors. He may win a few in the future, but probably not a major. Hall's American record is probably safe in fact.

Too big, huh. Before cheating Africans took over, this big guy did ok.

Exactly. I am not saying all runners are dirty just that there is a problem and we should not ignore it.

search function on your websit wrote:

wejo wrote:

Have we had a single prominent male test positive in Kenya or Ethiopia? Matthew Kisorio is the most prominent guy I can think of..

Not sure if he is prominent enough for you but 2 05 marathon runner Wilson Loyanane Erupe was busted for EPO.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/03/epo-cheat-wilson-loyanane-erupe-wins-180000-seoul-marathon-patick-makau-drops-european-record-barely-survives/

Almost no one is making that argument. They would still win most of the medals.

nigel power wrote:

For those who think that Kenyans are only dominant due to weak out of competition testing, then why did the Kenyan ex pats just dominate the US cross country championships?

Lydiard is God wrote:

Actual facts wrote:

The first thing I saw at LRC today was news that an American cheat (another) was banned for 12 months.

They're both black. Similar low ethical standards.

You're an Aussie, right? Not a surprise. Carry on.

Kenyans have the mind-set that Americans had 30 years ago. In 1980 even slow runners were serious about their running.

Do you think modern Kenya gives a crap about hobbyjoggers & the 5 hour 'thonner?

"You're all winners".

stephen snell wrote:

Kenyans have the mind-set that Americans had 30 years ago. In 1980 even slow runners were serious about their running.

Do you think modern Kenya gives a crap about hobbyjoggers & the 5 hour 'thonner?

"You're all winners".

Exactly. Years of pathetic leftard 'every child gets a prize' nonsense has turned the west into the flabby nightmare (morally, politically, emotionally and physically) that the current crop of jihadists are taking advantage of it.

The Africans are the jihadists of distance running.

And, for El Keniano, I'm from NZ originally. Both countries are happy to call a spade a spade, so to speak.

Yes Your Mind Is Weak.

Lydiard is God wrote:

[quote] Exactly. Years of pathetic leftard 'every child gets a prize' nonsense has turned the west into the flabby nightmare (morally, politically, emotionally and physically) that the current crop of jihadists are taking advantage of it.

The Africans are the jihadists of distance running.

And, for El Keniano, I'm from NZ originally. Both countries are happy to call a spade a spade, so to speak.

Good to know you, Sir. Take care.

Pretty disappointing the calibre of people infesting this message board these days.

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El Keniano wrote:

Lydiard is God wrote:

[quote] Exactly. Years of pathetic leftard 'every child gets a prize' nonsense has turned the west into the flabby nightmare (morally, politically, emotionally and physically) that the current crop of jihadists are taking advantage of it.

The Africans are the jihadists of distance running.

And, for El Keniano, I'm from NZ originally. Both countries are happy to call a spade a spade, so to speak.

Good to know you, Sir. Take care.

Pretty disappointing the calibre of people infesting this message board these days.

What is sad is the calibre of cheat infesting the running scene. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't be surprised if this Clayton Murphy was on some good stuff. Pretty meteoric rise. Barely less suspicious than Nigel Amos

Lydiard is God wrote:

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El Keniano wrote:

Good to know you, Sir. Take care.

Pretty disappointing the calibre of people infesting this message board these days.

What is sad is the calibre of cheat infesting the running scene. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't be surprised if this Clayton Murphy was on some good stuff. Pretty meteoric rise. Barely less suspicious than Nigel Amos

Cheer up, you'll always have rugby union and cricket. Sure rugby is quite niche and cricket is only played in ten countries, but that's all you've got as Aussies and Kiwis aren't particularly good at running. And Pearson is quite suspect, herself.

Proving once and for all what a total troll and dickhead you are.

Every Olympics NZ is in the top handful for medals per population, and wins across a wide range of sports. The Aussies, likewise, nearly always punch above their weight.

If it wasn't for drug-fuelled running Kenya and Jamaica would have SFA of nothing to show for turning up.

I'm quite certain most countries would rather win at track & field than rack up a medal count at the universally adored sports of canoeing, sailing, shooting or golf. By the way, I've been meaning to ask, is golf an athletic endeavour?

El Keniano wrote:

I'm quite certain most countries would rather win at track & field than rack up a medal count at the universally adored sports of canoeing, sailing, shooting or golf. By the way, I've been meaning to ask, is golf an athletic endeavour?

I think most countries would rather be good at a wide range of sports than exceptional at one small part of one niche sport (and need to cheat in a major way in order to be as exceptional).

Lydiard is God wrote:

Actual facts wrote:

The first thing I saw at LRC today was news that an American cheat (another) was banned for 12 months.

They're both black. Similar low ethical standards.

WTF?

El Keniano wrote:

JA alert wrote:

WTF?

Yes, charming, isn't he? Perfectly normal that part of the world where he's from. They call it "telling it like it is".

'Telling it like it is' is an excellent antidote to the PC BS that is rapidly trashing western society. Of course, people often don't like how it is, but tough sh1t.

I sincerely hope Marine LePen does really well, and deals with the Islamic savages fvcking Europe up the ass.