During marathon training, pretty much. But normally it's closer to once a month. Pricey, but I suspect I make some of it back by way of reduced insurance copays for treating injuries.
During marathon training, pretty much. But normally it's closer to once a month. Pricey, but I suspect I make some of it back by way of reduced insurance copays for treating injuries.
Copays get pricey... thank goodness i live in an excellent VA hospital area. So no worries.
Dont you run in like tank shoes as well? must be a helluva pronation
Completely depends on the shoe I'm wearing. I recently made a move to Nike Pegasus for the majority of my work and swapped out the last pair at around 700 miles. I noticed some lower leg tightness that kind of popped up out of nowhere around 500 miles on them and then it vanished with a new pair of shoes so I'll probably switch them a little sooner moving forward. I've also rotated some Hoka Claytons and they seem to only be good for around 300 miles tops. Nike Streaks so far seem to be about 150 mile shoes.
Yeah, I run in the Adidas Sequence Boost. They claim that the rubber is supposed to be a high strength rubber (made by Continental Tire Co), but I wear right through it and I only weigh in the 145-150 range when I'm training right. A lot softer and lighter Han the old shook stability shoes, but still a lot of shoe.
Smoove wrote:
Yeah, I run in the Adidas Sequence Boost. They claim that the rubber is supposed to be a high strength rubber (made by Continental Tire Co), but I wear right through it and I only weigh in the 145-150 range when I'm training right. A lot softer and lighter Han the old shook stability shoes, but still a lot of shoe.
Wow...I do not know if I have ever truly worn out a running shoe. I have a pair, worn mostly for races, that is approaching three years old, and they are still wearable, though the foam is getting hard wth age.
I read an article about Ed Whitlock, and he never changed his. I usually wear mine for about 3 months and then change them. I think mine get pretty close to 750.
How much do yall get out of racing flats?
I never have had a pair of true flats. But the hitos I wear .. wear a bit fast. I pronate quite a bit tho def not the worst foot strike but def not the best.
I can wear my racing flats indefinitely. I only race in them - I do almost every workout in trainers. They almost never wear out on me.
I often wear out the lugs near my middle forefoot around 200-250 miles. Outsole totally flat/smooth in areas. Most recently retired shoes Adidas Supernova and Brooks launch...Not tanks, but not feather shoes either.
. I may go run grandmas for the helluva it .. sounds like a good time.
Runrincerepeat wrote:
. I may go run grandmas for the helluva it .. sounds like a good time.
The same thought passed through my mind. I love northern, cold-weather places, too, and would like to visit Duluth. That 75 degrees at the start of last year's race, though, is pretty scary. I just do not have the bucks to risk on a non-PR type of scenario.
outsiderunner wrote:
Runrincerepeat wrote:. I may go run grandmas for the helluva it .. sounds like a good time.
The same thought passed through my mind. I love northern, cold-weather places, too, and would like to visit Duluth. That 75 degrees at the start of last year's race, though, is pretty scary. I just do not have the bucks to risk on a non-PR type of scenario.
Ha. Every race has a non-PR type outcome possibility...unless you've never raced the distance before.
I bet RRR could PR at Grandma's.
Well as long as I hit the line I am guaranteed a pr! And I can go cheap. Take a backpack and a hammock and roll out
You're not driving there are you? That would be a long trip.
Smoove wrote:
... I only race in them (racing flats) - I do almost every workout in trainers ...
Rather than an electrolyte issue, perhaps your calf cramps are related to the differing mechanics of running in flats versus stability trainers. Maybe occasionally running longer training tempos in flats would help prepare the calf muscles for that difference?
A fair point. I gave that some thought, but my flats (Adidas Adios) have the same drop as my trainers (Adidas Sequence). I also did one of my marathon paced runs in my flats, and raced a 15k in them as well. I actually gave some consideration to running any future marathon in trainers for just this reason, but then I recalled that the drop was the same and that I cramped up on two long training runs (run in my trainers), so I doubt I will do that. I may do a little more training in and race in some Boston Boosts in the future though.
I think 18 miles at 5:45ish pace on a 70 degree day was just too much for my matchstick calves to handle.
I heard somewhere recently about calf issues and cramps being traced back to glute weakness or mobility. Glutes don't fire like they should so the calves overwork and wear out. Sound like you took plenty of salt so that probably wasn't it, time to hit the gym, hills, and box jumps?
*Tight hip flexors were another possible culprit.
Smoove wrote:
A fair point. I gave that some thought, but my flats (Adidas Adios) have the same drop as my trainers (Adidas Sequence). I also did one of my marathon paced runs in my flats, and raced a 15k in them as well. I actually gave some consideration to running any future marathon in trainers for just this reason, but then I recalled that the drop was the same and that I cramped up on two long training runs (run in my trainers), so I doubt I will do that. I may do a little more training in and race in some Boston Boosts in the future though.
I think 18 miles at 5:45ish pace on a 70 degree day was just too much for my matchstick calves to handle.
I have found that drop isnt the only thing. Softness of the heel makes a big difference. My Hitos have a 9mm drop and sayonaras 10mm drop but the Hitos have a much softer heel so it feels more like 5-6mm.. loads my calves much more than the trainers.
Both are very likely candidates. The only reason I focus so much on electrolytes is that I also get other weird cramping issues. My feet, lats, pecs and triceps tend to cramp pretty frequently too. But I definitely have very weak glutes and stabilizers, and everything is tight.
I think I will take some time this training cycle to do some low intensity strength training. It cannot hurt.