Being short

Masters&JohnsonAthlete wrote:

Women like confidence but the shorter man can't have a Napoleon complex.

The problem with that is a short guy with a "Napoleon complex" or "short man's syndrome" would be considered a healthy, ambitious guy if he were 6'3" and acted the same

HardLoper wrote:

jamin wrote:

The average height of world class sprinters is 6'0"

Source? Before Bolt came around people thought being tall must be a disadvantage. He is still only a sample of 1.

I Googled "average height sprinters".

The guy on the previous page said that shorter guys are faster at 100m and 200m. No way that's true.

I don't really get the point of being really short if you're a man. If you're going for the "cute rather than hot" look, being an inch or two below average might be an okay choice, but to be 5'8" or whatever just doesn't make any sense to me.

Trayvon Bromell - 5'8 - 60m/100m - 6.47 - 9.88 - WJR holder in the 100m (9.97), 2016 indoor WC (beat 6'3 Asafa Powell), 2015 WC bronze medalist

Mike Rodgers - 5'7 60m/100m - 6.50 - 9.88 - 1st 2013 USA Outdoor

Trell Kilmmons - 5'8 - 60m/100m - 6.49 - 9.93

Andre De Grasse 5'9 100m/200m - 9.91 - 19.80 - 2xOly Bronze/1xSilver, WC Bronze, Pan Am Champ (100m/200m), Canadian Outdoor Champ...Too much to discuss

Tyson Gay - 5'10

Beejay Lee - 5'5 - 100m/200m - 9.98 - 20.45

David Verberg - 5'6 - 400m - 44.89 - 2nd Olympic Trials, 1st 2015 USA Outdoor/ 4x400m indoor joint WR holder

De'Angelo Cherry - 5'6 - 60m - 6.49

Lugelin Santos - 5'8 - 400m - 44.11 - Olympic Silver Medalist

Jon Drummond - 5'9 - 100m/200m - 9.92 - 20.03 - 2x 4x100m WC

Ato Boldon - 5'9 - 100m/200m - 9.86 - 19.77 - 3x Olympic Bronze/ 1x Silver/ 1997 100m WC

Maurice Green - 5'9 - 60m/100m/200m - 6.39 (WR), 9.79, 19.86 - Too many awards to list

Dentarius Locke - 5'7 - 60m/100m - 6.52 - 9.97 - 2x NCAA runnerup

Christian Coleman - 5'9 - 60m/100m/200m - 6.45 - 9.96 - 20.57 - Only a sophomore and has done the 60m, 200m double at indoor NCAA for Tennessee, Only Justin Gatlin has done that who coincidentally went to Tennessee

Marvin Bracy - 5'8 100m/60m - 9.98 - 6.48 - 3x USA indoor champ - WIC Silver/ 3rd 100m Olympic Trials

Akani Simbine - 5'9 - 100m/200m - 9.89 - 19.95 - African Record Holder/Champ/ 2016 Olympic Finalist

Literally, I could go on. You're right there are many tall sprinters, however they pale in comparison to Sprinters 5'10 and below. Asafa Powell, Usain Bolt, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake, Jimmy Vicaut, Christophe Lemaitre, etc (All 6'0 and above) do make up a big majority of Sprinters, however a few that I listed have huge disadvantages when it comes to turn over and starts.

Just watch 6'2 Carl Lewis and 5'8 Ben Johnson start next to each other. Ben Johnson blasts away and Carl has to play catch up. Same with Justin Gatlin and Usain Bolt

I also never stated that short sprinters are faster, but we do have our advantages than taller sprinters. Watch the youtube video "Michael Johnson explains the science of the 100m" He states that Usain Bolt has a huge disadvantage as a 6'4 sprinter as his starts are literally trash. He is playing catch up to everyone the first 60m. This is where his height becomes his advantage. He has the turn over of a 5'10 guy and his strides are massive. If he wasn't as fast as he is, he'd be the Andrew Wheating of sprints

Yes I could be. Maybe yes. Maybe not. I have done a lot of fast food in my lifetime though so I know what it's like. I'm far from pretentious though. It takes a lot of work to become a physician but the fast food work I did puts it all in perspective--that truly sucks. Well, being a delivery guy ain't that bad hehe.

My statements were just matter of fact. I'm poor compared to my friends making 400k a year. Then there are software engineers making 100k with only a college degree. Or the businessmen from my college that we call "b school ballers." THOSE guys can make a ton. But you have to do what you love.

My sister is 5'9 and beautiful; her husband is 5'7. Not rich either, or good looking. But he's smart and confident and she finds him hilarious.

Canada Girl wrote:

My sister is 5'9 and beautiful; her husband is 5'7. Not rich either, or good looking. But he's smart and confident and she finds him hilarious.

So weird, a girl who thinks her sister is beautiful. You don't hear that everyday.

nuhhhhh wrote:

Yes I could be. Maybe yes. Maybe not. I have done a lot of fast food in my lifetime though so I know what it's like. I'm far from pretentious though. It takes a lot of work to become a physician but the fast food work I did puts it all in perspective--that truly sucks. Well, being a delivery guy ain't that bad hehe.

My statements were just matter of fact. I'm poor compared to my friends making 400k a year. Then there are software engineers making 100k with only a college degree. Or the businessmen from my college that we call "b school ballers." THOSE guys can make a ton. But you have to do what you love.

Oh boy...here we go again. Are you a real doctor or do you play one on T.V.? 😁. FWIW, I think you're trying to hard to impress the short guys on this thread....😄.

Another 5' 7" guy here.

The long and short of it is: yes, being a short as a male is a disadvantage in many aspects of life. That doesn't mean you can't be successful, but it makes a lot of things more challenging.

For me, this was most frustrating in high school and college, when I was horny as hell and more interested in hooking up and superficial relationships. It's much easier to get filtered our in these scenarios.

I ended up gravitating toward steady, committed relationships because I didn't fair well in the hookup environment (in part to due to my height).

Other insidious disadvantages to shortness show up in data, but are hard to pin down definitively in day-to-day life, much like discrimination against unattractive people, or people of certain ethnicities.

One anecdotal counterexample:

A good friend of mine from college was shorter than me, a bit plump, and had an average face at best. Despite all that, he hooked up with tons of hot girls. It sounds cliche, but what set him apart was that his confidence level and social finesse. For his shortcomings in other areas, he was easily in the 99th percentile when it came to social skills.

At the end of the day, we all just have to do the best with what we have.

Also, instead of dwelling on our weaknesses (at least those that we can't change), we'd do much better to count our blessings. For example, I'm an able bodied, white male in a country where that's advantageous as a rule of thumb. And I was born with a brain that let me excel in school and not be redundant in today's economy.

jamin wrote:

alphagirl wrote:

I would say your greatest problem is likely to be failure to.interact with women, failure to get to know them as people (rather than commodities to improve your social status and how you feel about yourself) and focussing too much on yourself. Only based in the fact you are posting in a known misogynistic website, rather than actually being one of those decent guys who has attracted a partner who cares about them.

You say all this, but I would bet money that you filter out short guys from your online dating searches.

I don't (didn't, I'm not single now) use online dating sites. EXCEPT to search if the 5 feet 7 guy I mentioned above was using them. (which he was...) so obviously I didn't filter on the height! Different things are important to different people, height will be important to some women, other women won't care. Many men won't date ugly women or fat women. I can only speak for myself. Shortness doesn't bother me, but ugliness, baldness and being much older than me do. Tall men can be scrawny and that's pretty unattractive, while some short men can be a bit more muscular looking without being the body builder type, which is nice. Or skinny, short Prince - very few women would turn him down, the man was magnetising. But if he were 6 feet tall, he would probably have been a bit creepy.

What I can say is that posting for opinions on boards like this isn't really giving you a great idea about what women like. I've seen it said by one guy on here that if a woman doesn't respond to him straight away, he moves onto the next. But quite often, if a guy asks you out and you aren't easy, or whatever, you sometimes say no because you are a bit shy and embarrassed, but if you hang out with the guy with friends for a bit, and get to know him, then you might feel attracted. And I don't find men that dates lots of women attractive at all, if I found that out about a guy I would probably have turned him down. Most of my friends socialise through their college or professional networks and met their partners that way, they don't really date but kind of hang out for a bit.

As I say I'm no expert, but from what I've heard from other women, I'd avoid online dating and try to find someone who has more going on her life than obsessively trying to meet someone and get married. Find a woman with a good level job, with a good education, who does some kind of sport, not necessarily running.

anothershortguy

Also, instead of dwelling on our weaknesses (at least those that we can't change), we'd do much better to count our blessings. For example, I'm an able bodied, white male in a country where that's advantageous as a rule of thumb. And I was born with a brain that let me excel in school and not be redundant in today's economy.

Wow...you be da man! That's a great statement of motivation 👏. Short fellows unite! We're not going to take it anymore! And some of you hot women...you just don't what you're missing with us shorties 😁.

Don't worry. At least you'll probably live longer than tall guys.

HardLoper wrote:

Masters&JohnsonAthlete wrote:

Women like confidence but the shorter man can't have a Napoleon complex.

The problem with that is a short guy with a "Napoleon complex" or "short man's syndrome" would be considered a healthy, ambitious guy if he were 6'3" and acted the same

He'd be considered an a-hole who is over compensating.

Find solutions instead of excuses when it comes to the mating game. There are plenty of tall guys who don't get love either and they have their own set of excuses.

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Zayn Malik dates Gigi Hadid, the hottest girl in the world, and she's taller

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Dude she is miles away from being "the hottest girl in the world."