New NOP report- Rupp/Centro Suspicious Blood test. + Nike interfering with USADA

found wrote:

Lots of interesting things here.

Rupp had a suspicious Testosterone to Epitestosterone Blood Test

Centrowitz had a suspicious Hemoglobin and reticulocyte test.

Nike seems to be stonewalling USADA so that it can't get information on Salazar.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/is-nike-covering-up-dubious-practices-of-runners-a-1137229.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=

We've been talking about this all week moran

Late to the party wrote:

found wrote:

Lots of interesting things here.

Rupp had a suspicious Testosterone to Epitestosterone Blood Test

Centrowitz had a suspicious Hemoglobin and reticulocyte test.

Nike seems to be stonewalling USADA so that it can't get information on Salazar.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/is-nike-covering-up-dubious-practices-of-runners-a-1137229.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=

We've been talking about this all week moran

Hey "moran",

This article just got published today. So that is impossible.

You've been talking about the leaked report for a week, but this is the most complete article to date. With new information and details on the suspicious tests, Nike's lack of cooperation, and many other details.

Try reading (and spelling) before you comment.

found wrote:

Late to the party wrote:

We've been talking about this all week moran

Hey "moran",

This article just got published today. So that is impossible.

You've been talking about the leaked report for a week, but this is the most complete article to date. With new information and details on the suspicious tests, Nike's lack of cooperation, and many other details.

Try reading (and spelling) before you comment.

Why does it matter when the article was posted? It contains information we already knew and fills the rest in with lots of opinion.

Moran.

That's pretty harsh:

"It begins on a soccer field with a pale, 14-year-old boy from Portland with Dumbo ears and an overbite."

found wrote:

Lots of interesting things here.

Rupp had a suspicious Testosterone to Epitestosterone Blood Test

Centrowitz had a suspicious Hemoglobin and reticulocyte test.

Rupp, an endurance athlete, has a suspicious and suddenly changing T/E score. You have to give credit to Salazar. He nailed the exogenous T dosage.

Salazar says that his intention is to prevent his athletes from taking dietary supplements that might be contaminated with banned substances.

Huh.... If only there were some certification that a supplement is WADA compliant. Oh, look, there IS!!!

What. A. Liar.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Salazar ... What. A. Liar.

+1000000000000000000

"According to the USADA report, at least five runners with the Nike Oregon Project received L-carnitine infusions, among them Rapp."

Who is Rapp?

Rupper the Rapper wrote:

"According to the USADA report, at least five runners with the Nike Oregon Project received L-carnitine infusions, among them Rapp."

Who is Rapp?

The intentionally wrong name spelling used by Sulazar on Rupp's secret blood charts.

"In the 1,500-meter final he was so dominant that he led the pack from the beginning to the end."

The whole article is written in a pretty biased manner, but the above is just about the most disingenuous thing I'v ever read.

Hairtoday wrote:

That's pretty harsh:

"It begins on a soccer field with a pale, 14-year-old boy from Portland with Dumbo ears and an overbite."

Gives the write no credibility whatsoever. What a shallow and coddled Moran.

I'm a huge Centro fan, but even I had pause watching that 1500m final. The way Centro handled the likes of Mahkloufi and Kiprop and others was stunning, even in a slow race that favored him. He seemed to have a little extra "umph" in his engine that day :/

Found your click bait wrote:

Hairtoday wrote:

That's pretty harsh:

"It begins on a soccer field with a pale, 14-year-old boy from Portland with Dumbo ears and an overbite."

Gives the write no credibility whatsoever. What a shallow and coddled Moran.

My understanding was that Rupp was actually a pretty good soccer player before he switched to running. They make him out to be some kind of gangly goofball who just sprinted around the field and kicked the ball into the stands every time he happened to come across it. Maybe the writer got his Forrest Gump DVD mixed in with his source material and got himself confused. "From that day on, If I was goin' somewhere, I was run-ning."

observers wrote:

I'm a huge Centro fan, but even I had pause watching that 1500m final. The way Centro handled the likes of Mahkloufi and Kiprop and others was stunning, even in a slow race that favored him. He seemed to have a little extra "umph" in his engine that day :/

horsesht.

while running a 4:08 mile equiv.?

flotracking wrote:

observers wrote:

I'm a huge Centro fan, but even I had pause watching that 1500m final. The way Centro handled the likes of Mahkloufi and Kiprop and others was stunning, even in a slow race that favored him. He seemed to have a little extra "umph" in his engine that day :/

horsesht.

while running a 4:08 mile equiv.?

And who runs a 50 flat 400m at the end of a 4:08 mile equiv???

Rupper the Rapper wrote:

My understanding was that Rupp was actually a pretty good soccer player before he switched to running.

Well then. There are a lot of "pretty good" soccer players running around. How many have won Olympic distance running medals.

There should be a bunch of pretty good" soccer players. Seems like easy picking for running coaches. No need to look for the next Rupp. Just go to a soccer field and convert the fastest ones to Olympic medalists. So easy. Any coach can be a winner.

Soccer Playa wrote:

Rupper the Rapper wrote:

My understanding was that Rupp was actually a pretty good soccer player before he switched to running.

Well then. There are a lot of "pretty good" soccer players running around. How many have won Olympic distance running medals.

There should be a bunch of pretty good" soccer players. Seems like easy picking for running coaches. No need to look for the next Rupp. Just go to a soccer field and convert the fastest ones to Olympic medalists. So easy. Any coach can be a winner.

I think you're missing my point. They paint him to have been a bad soccer player. According to what I've heard, this isn't really true.

Not sure what other stuff you are blabbering about.

Rupper the Rapper wrote:

I think you're missing my point. They paint him to have been a bad soccer player. According to what I've heard, this isn't really true.

"They painted"???

What "you've" heard???

What are you babbling about????

The report on Centro with the hgb and abnormal retic count is more concerning than anything else to me. Of course rupp and farah are on the thyroid meds- we all knew that. This is the first we have heard of any epo/blood doping allegations, however. I sure hope it's not correct. That was a proud moment to see him take it to the world's best.

Hyperproliferative hypochromia wrote:

The report on Centro with the hgb and abnormal retic count is more concerning than anything else to me. Of course rupp and farah are on the thyroid meds- we all knew that. This is the first we have heard of any epo/blood doping allegations, however. I sure hope it's not correct. That was a proud moment to see him take it to the world's best.

this isn't exactly the first time this is coming to air. remember when that thread was hot on Letsrun, something like "Centro!!!" and then Centro and his peeps had to deny, and he was like out all of indoor for a heart infection? There have been murmurs surrounding young Centro for years now, as much as I think he's super talented and dedicated and all that, he's always seemed to just coast through the rounds at major championships. aside from Beijing, he always done super well, and the fact that his levels were abnormal in the leadup to his best performance yet at the Olympics, makes me more suspicious.