Transgender Boy Wins Texas Girls State Championship in Wrestling

Forgot the link to the ESPNW article

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/18767310/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-euless-trinity-wins-texas-state-girls-wrestling-title

It doesn't take any balls to wrestle those estrogen filled competitors.

Red Pill Giver wrote:

He/she/it shouldn't be allowed to wrestle boys either. Testosterone is a PED and having a mental illness shouldn't be a valid excuse for a TUE.

^ This.

Giving a child testosterone... Dear God. I've said this before - posterity will look down upon us on this issue in the same we do today those who advocated for/performed lobotomies 50+ years ago.

I wonder if he will join Bo Nickal also a former state champion from Texas at Penn State next year?

Only 110 pounds he/she/it will have to lift hard to be strong enough to go 125 the smallest weight in college, but he has next year and then he could redshirt his freshman year, and then hopefully Suriano will bump up to 133 and this athlete can wrestle Spencer Lee of Iowa and Daton Fix of Oklahoma state among others in an attempt to be NCAA champion.

Dont know why it matters though as a Professor was on TV a couple of weeks ago who said Sex is a Social Construct and NOT a Biological Reality, and if a College Professor said it, they must have done extensive research on the subject, so he would not look like an idiot.

I do wonder when it will happen that a male enters a women's race.

I can see the point that gender is social construct--in that perhaps it answers the question what does it mean to be a man or a woman. But sex is biological. Even when people started to differentiate between gender and sex that was the differentiation.

And to preempt the conversation, Caster Semenya is a different story. Even if she has internal testes she probably didn't know for a long time. So it seems to me that she came into the problem honestly. Whether to make her take drugs to compete as a woman has no easy answers. That question, like much of politics, is difficult. People always pose it as one person's rights, but it's really a matter of whose "rights" (desires, in some cases, for know one NEEDS to compete, for example) to uphold. Should you exclude her or make her take drugs to compete, for the sake of other women without her advantages, or should you allow her to compete as she is. It's a tough call. Personally, I'd vote for allowing her the option of taking drugs in order to compete as a woman. If she doesn't want to take them, that's fine, no one is forcing her, she just can't compete as a woman. Yes, its a bad deal for her, but I think it's the best solution taking everyone into account.

This kid's parents split up and she was "raised" in the grandmother's home.

I wouldn't doubt the parents were fighting so much that she made a cry for attention here.

Of course it is just what one parent needs: to support a ridiculous radical demand just to spite the other parent.

Also, I've seen her wrestle. She's garbage.

Cheetah wrote:

Caster Semenya is a different story. Even if she has internal testes she probably didn't know for a long time. So it seems to me that she came into the problem honestly.

Semenya always knew his condition, and if you believe that he didn't then he certainly knows now, and yet he persists in competing in women's events, in spite of the fact he's a man, and in spite of the fact that he's allowed to take drugs, which should disqualify him from competing at all, against anyone, woman or man.

I'd really like someone to enter all their B level boys in women's races and sweep the titles, same for basketball. Do it just to prove a point.

zohan wrote:

I'd really like someone to enter all their B level boys in women's races and sweep the titles, same for basketball. Do it just to prove a point.

You can't. That's the issue. This kid wants to compete in the male category but Texas won't let that happen.

Says you must compete in the gender class of birth.

So I like the point this kid has made very much.

You're contradicting yourself wrote:

Semenya always knew his condition, and if you believe that he didn't then he certainly knows now, and yet he persists in competing in women's events, in spite of the fact he's a man, and in spite of the fact that he's allowed to take drugs, which should disqualify him from competing at all, against anyone, woman or man.

Hmm. What evidence do you have of that? I don't believe Semenya has any external male parts. And you're calling Semenya a he just to push people's buttons? Real mature. Oh, and which drugs are you talking about? The drugs she was allowed to take were to reduce her testosterone level, to take away an advantage.

zohan wrote:

I'd really like someone to enter all their B level boys in women's races and sweep the titles, same for basketball. Do it just to prove a point.

What point would that prove? Did you read the article? The individual in question was born female, and is competing against girls. There are certainly arguments to be made against it, but yours is not analogous at all.

He was born a guy, he should wrestle a guy. End of story. Libtarrd FAIL.

You're contradicting yourself wrote:

Semenya always knew his condition, and if you believe that he didn't then he certainly knows now, and yet he persists in competing in women's events, in spite of the fact he's a man, and in spite of the fact that he's allowed to take drugs, which should disqualify him from competing at all, against anyone, woman or man.

Cheetah wrote:

Hmm. What evidence do you have of that? I don't believe Semenya has any external male parts. And you're calling Semenya a he just to push people's buttons? Real mature. Oh, and which drugs are you talking about? The drugs she was allowed to take were to reduce her testosterone level, to take away an advantage.

He's a guy, because he has male organs and that's why he was required to take drugs to compete against women, i.e. a guy taking drugs to compete against women. Also he was raised as a guy, and competed all his life as a guy, yet you say he doesn't know he's a guy????? He's only calling himself a woman to compete as a guy against women but him nor you calling him a she makes him a woman, because he's obviously a man, not a woman. He's a he, and you are delusional. Giving a guy drugs to compete against women is totally ABSURD.

beta wrote:

zohan wrote:

I'd really like someone to enter all their B level boys in women's races and sweep the titles, same for basketball. Do it just to prove a point.

What point would that prove? Did you read the article? The individual in question was born female, and is competing against girls. There are certainly arguments to be made against it, but yours is not analogous at all.

Just show the ridiculousness of acting like you are another gender does not make you that gender.

Or maybe we should get rid of all gender based scholarships and competition?

Red Pill Giver wrote:

He/she/it shouldn't be allowed to wrestle boys either. Testosterone is a PED and having a mental illness shouldn't be a valid excuse for a TUE.

Yup but thats just the sad state of things right now. I feel bad for legitimate female athletes who have to deal with stuff like this

As someone who doesn't know any transgender people (I do have a few gay friends) - would it really be the worst thing to say a doctor can't prescribe these hormones or drugs until someone is 18 or 21? It is pretty well documented your brain isn't fully developed until your 20s and your attitude might change. I'm certainly a very different person from high school.

#HERO

I was joking