The new lineup of Nike spikes (Victory 3, Matumbo 3, Mamba 3, etc) all have the new spike plate technology with non-removable pins. I get their claim that having non-removable pin spikes cuts down on weight, but does this mean you have to buy totally new spikes once the pins wear down?? Do these non-removable pins last longer? Seems absurd to have to buy a completely new pair of spikes whenever the spike pins wear down
1) The shoes will last longer than the spikes will, so don't worry about replacement issues.
2) This isn't a new thing, the Jasari and Ventulus were perma-spike as well.
I'm hopeful this will have the side effect of stopping people from walking on concrete with their spikes still on post-race. I can't stand the sound of it, but now maybe runners will be a little more thoughtful.
Running Store Employee wrote:
1) The shoes will last longer than the spikes will, so don't worry about replacement issues.
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Victory 3 has removable pins. It's the elite 2 that doesn't.
fdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
Running Store Employee wrote:1) The shoes will last longer than the spikes will, so don't worry about replacement issues.
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Yeah, that is not helping the argument.
Wow I figured this was just sprint spikes. Its hard to believe a distance spike pin would last long enough??? Esp with the crappy tracks a lot of HS kids have to run on.
Once below a certain weight, what does it matter. Nobody can tell 4oz from 5oz on their foot.
67dhy wrote:
Once below a certain weight, what does it matter. Nobody can tell 4oz from 5oz on their foot.
Can confirm - his math checks out.
squeakyclean wrote:
fdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:???
Yeah, that is not helping the argument.
Unless you have previously had issues with the durability of Nike's uppers and plates on their spikes (and if you had, why would you be looking to buy another pair?), these will last just as long. In other words, the new permanent pins will not be the limiting factor on their durability.
Running Store Employee wrote:
squeakyclean wrote:Yeah, that is not helping the argument.
Unless you have previously had issues with the durability of Nike's uppers and plates on their spikes (and if you had, why would you be looking to buy another pair?), these will last just as long. In other words, the new permanent pins will not be the limiting factor on their durability.
I think you should go back and read what you wrote.
That being said, I have a pair of Zoom Eldorets from 2004 with perma-spikes that are still going strong. I've run a lot of workouts and races, the pins are doing just fine. I've been careful on pavement with them.
These babies:
Running Store Employee wrote:
squeakyclean wrote:Yeah, that is not helping the argument.
Unless you have previously had issues with the durability of Nike's uppers and plates on their spikes (and if you had, why would you be looking to buy another pair?), these will last just as long. In other words, the new permanent pins will not be the limiting factor on their durability.
Their point is that you apparently misstated your point. You said that the shoes last longer than the spikes, and you meant to say that the spikes last longer than the shoes.
That's not true, though. Spikes aren't going to literally break, but they get dull and lose their bite long before most uppers wear out. That's especially true for the high school students who buy most spikes. They're often running on asphalt tracks, and they typically don't have different pairs for workouts and races. On the other hand, if you wear them only for racing, only on Mondo, then spike durability won't be an issue.
Some meets direct people to exit the track onto paved walkways after the race.
The perma-spikes I've seen are always blunt to begin with. Shaped like round-topped Christmas trees.
Typos happen - I get that. But I'm always amazed when people are alerted on their typo and then double down on being wrong. It is fascinating.
But then again, the guy works at a running store, so.....yeah.
fdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
Running Store Employee wrote:1) The shoes will last longer than the spikes will, so don't worry about replacement issues.
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Yeah, point was completely missed.
rmess wrote:
But then again, the guy works at a running store, so.....yeah.
Hey buddy, I worked at a running store.
It was.... disappointing. Except for all the free gear. That part rocked.
