Kipsang is wearing the Adidas SUB2 in Tokyo

Why not a sub2:2:50, sub2:02:40 and so

I presume this means the Adidas Adios Boost will be discontinued?

Don't you hate it when a company discontinues a very good pair of shoes or alters them. Adidas are notorious for replacing a good pair of shoes with a terrible pair. I got a pair of Avanti 2s (I'm an old jogger) and I tried them out today and they are great but the Avanti 3s look way different. I hope that Kipsang goes well but what are the chances these fancy new shoes under perform in Tokyo?

Those looks pretty sweet i definitely want to try a pair. Wish they'd have left to whole sub-2 thing out of it tho lol, lame

No the adios will definitely continue. It is a great all rounder and many people use it as their go to daily trainer. There are athletes winning ultras and trail races with them.

The Sub 2 is its own unique beast that is engineered purely for the fastest in the world, or maybe if you want to smash a KOM. ;)

Nike has been doing their own sub2 PROJECT (combo of footwear, training, course/condition optimization etc) and now adidas believe they are one upping them with a shoe release that is their own sub2 "project"? What happens if Kipsang doesn't even run close to the WR? What happens if he doesn't even win the race? Would that be the end of the adidas sub2 project because it would seem like it. It seems like a last second desperate push to join the party more than anything. Kind of pathetic.

badgermile wrote:

Nike has been doing their own sub2 PROJECT (combo of footwear, training, course/condition optimization etc) and now adidas believe they are one upping them with a shoe release that is their own sub2 "project"? What happens if Kipsang doesn't even run close to the WR? What happens if he doesn't even win the race? Would that be the end of the adidas sub2 project because it would seem like it. It seems like a last second desperate push to join the party more than anything. Kind of pathetic.

Per an earlier article, adidas has been working on the project for 2 years. While I see no reason to defend this kind of circus, I don't get the sense that they're seeing this race as all or nothing. Kipsang has said he is aiming for a WR not a sub2.

The avanti is too stiff and super heavy. I have no idea why they even categorized it in the adizero (light) line. The mesh also sucks. I only realized it when I bought the nike mamba 2, now that's a spike!

Adidas_innovation wrote:

No the adios will definitely continue. It is a great all rounder and many people use it as their go to daily trainer. There are athletes winning ultras and trail races with them.

The Sub 2 is its own unique beast that is engineered purely for the fastest in the world, or maybe if you want to smash a KOM. ;)

Agree... Adios is a different animal. At worst it will eat into the Takumi Sen (Ren)

4 years! I was working on this project right after the adios Boost launched. Wilson Kipsang first ran in the shoe 1.5 years ago when kimetto, and the two mutai's visited Herzo. Check out instagram #sub2project for evidence

Yes. The original adizero pr's were the best racing flats. Almost as light as the mizuno wave universe, but slightly sturdier with a bit more cushioning. This was 2008? Since then they've got heavier and way too cushioned, with a higher heel.

Fndbzvx wrote:

Those looks pretty sweet i definitely want to try a pair. Wish they'd have left to whole sub-2 thing out of it tho lol, lame

Agreed on both counts. I loved the Adizero Pro, and also have a pair of Takumi Sens which I like a lot but think the Pros were a little better for me, anyway. Would have kept using them for the rest of my life if they still existed. These sub-2s look promising, though. Can't wait to give them a shot. I'd love to see a photo of the sole.

What they need to do is just run the marathon in huraches, you aren't going to get a lighter shoe than that unless you're barefoot Adebe Bikila style. Then again I don't think even their legs could handle the pounding because they train in cushioned shoes.

Rockstar Games wrote:

The avanti is too stiff and super heavy. I have no idea why they even categorized it in the adizero (light) line. The mesh also sucks. I only realized it when I bought the nike mamba 2, now that's a spike!

You must be 17 years old, add twenty and you will the Avanti 2s are great.

One thought I had with this release is that maybe Nike will feel pressure to release some information on their new marathon shoe that has been seen on nearly all of their elite marathoners over the past year or so.

Word is he had shoe problems in the race?

Can anybody collaborate this?

2.03.57 is a great time but not a WR and not sub 2. I'm confused now, was this the adidas sub 2 attempt like Nike are doing? Is it over?

What like kipchoge Nike style problems????

American cake wrote:

Word is he had shoe problems in the race?

Can anybody collaborate this?

The information I have directly from Wilson straight after race is:

"Very satisfied with the shoe. Helped me a lot. Biggest problem today was headwind at the end and the small hills.

But very happy with the shoe!"

Looking forward to getting his .gpx file to look I to detail at the splits vs incline.

Good to hear, please share your info when you've had a chance to look at it!