I ran a number of both & for me half-marathons always seem easier to get faster in. Talking of 5 minutes in a half is like taking off 1 minute in a 10K. As I get older speed is getting harder to come by while going long & steady becomes easier. I've done 33 for 10K (@22) & 1:15 (@31) for half.
Depends on the runner.
the real deal wrote:
GOAT2BE wrote:Ditto
"Someone around that fitness level probably isn't running a whole lot of miles"
Can't say I agree with that, you either need to be pretty fit and be running quite a lot of miles (~40) or have good genes you're not taking advantage of to run a Sub40 or Sub90/HM.
40 mpw is not a lot of miles
I doubt that there are many people toeing the line who run more than that on average during a year. But go ahead, tell us how many you think are "quite a lot of miles" ?
sub 90 by far, at least for me. Since 2010, I have managed to run all my halves (including the first half of my marathons) between 1:25 and 1:28 (one exception was racing a half during a vacation without any training and that resulted in 1:31). When it comes to the 10K, I have broken 40 only 2 times (one was 39:03 on a flat course, the other was one just below 40 on some odd day during tempo workout with a friend), while on all other races I finished like 40:0x :-(... Or maybe I just suck big time when it comes to speed :-)
It a fact: Half marathon under 1:30 is MUCH easier, assuming you've done some training to cover the distance.
Any key works that indicates sub 90 for the half?
What's a 'work'?
mediocre jogger wrote:
Any key works that indicates sub 90 for the half?
Key workouts**
Yes I know most people in hete run this on their easy runs daily
This is a pertinent question for me as I am right on the cusp of both. I have recently ran a 40:41 10k and a 1:32 half as a 44 year old averaging 50 mpw. For me I think the a sub 40 10k is easier for two reasons. First there are a lot of track specific workouts to improve speed. I joined a local track club and shaved a minute and a half off my 10k time in a year by just showing up and following directions. And second I think its easier to focus and hold your shit together for 40 minutes as opposed to 90 minutes. For the 10k I didn't have to worry about fueling or injuries creeping in and I could run in lighter shoes. All I have to do is sprinkle in a little hate and I'm sure I could run 7 seconds per mile faster. Holding focus for 13.1 miles for me seems harder.
Any workouts that should indicate either sub 40 10k or sub 90 HM?
These are very similar. 90 min HM would be slightly easier to achieve if doing the mileage.
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