I am good enough to run for this program and I am a senior in HS. I will not take no for an answer and want to call the coach flat out and tell him. Is this a good idea?
I am good enough to run for this program and I am a senior in HS. I will not take no for an answer and want to call the coach flat out and tell him. Is this a good idea?
One guess, you aren't as good as you think you are and they aren't interested in you. List your prs or quit trolling
If he isn't contacting you, there could be several reasons why:
-Your PR's aren't good enough
-Their roster is too full and they can't take many recruits
-The coach is busy worrying about indoor conferences coming up right now
-You have a bad attitude and doesn't want you in the team atmosphere
-You come from a high school program with a history of creating burnouts/people who just get worse in college
If you do plan on calling him, wait until after the indoor conference weekend and maybe send an email or a text asking when a good time to call would be.
Best of Luck
HowShouldIApproach wrote:
I am good enough to run for this program and I am a senior in HS. I will not take no for an answer and want to call the coach flat out and tell him. Is this a good idea?
If the coach says no, what are you going to do?
Maybe the coach knows about you and does not want you. A coach looks at things more than just times. How will you fit in with the team and his culture? Maybe he has other athletes already on scholarship in your events and is looking to dish out scholarships in other areas.
When you call, I suggest you be diplomatic. Confident, but not a blowhard.
How do you know you're good enough?
I knew I would get a few responses that my PR's aren't fast enough like I think. Trust me, I have looked at each kid on their roster right now and compared my times I am running right now to theirs. I wouldn't be the top few guys but I definitely wouldn't be at the bottom of the barrel. I would sit somewhere in the middle, towards the front. As far as the Coach not liking me, there is no reason not to like me. My high school does not have a big name for producing burnouts. I did not take an official visit there because I was not offered one, therefore all the guys on the team do not know me.
Welcome to the real world, where doing X, Y, and Z does not guarantee results. You will always be judged subjectively, and there is no such thing as being liked by everybody (regardless of how "nice" you may be).
It does not matter who is on the team and their level of performance. It matters what your level of performance is relative to those in the conference the school competes in.
With the lack of scholarships, my squad usually has an event that is weak (this changes from year to year). HS kids contact me and say, "I am as good as anyone you have on your team (in the weak event)". My response is "great, you can walk on, if you have the grades, attitude, etc. But no scholarship $"
I am not recruiting people to beat those on my team. I am recruiting people to beat those in our conference.
For many reasons, too many young, non-competitive athletes can become a hindrance to the team's success.
Best of luck!
Are you sure you want to run under a coach that is treating you as such? Just something to consider.
HowShouldIApproach wrote:
I am good enough to run for this program and I am a senior in HS. I will not take no for an answer and want to call the coach flat out and tell him. Is this a good idea?
Your ego is clearly more impressive than your times.
He's clearly not interested in adding an egomaniac like yourself to the squad.
backstretch wrote:
It does not matter who is on the team and their level of performance. It matters what your level of performance is relative to those in the conference the school competes in.
With the lack of scholarships, my squad usually has an event that is weak (this changes from year to year). HS kids contact me and say, "I am as good as anyone you have on your team (in the weak event)". My response is "great, you can walk on, if you have the grades, attitude, etc. But no scholarship $"
I am not recruiting people to beat those on my team. I am recruiting people to beat those in our conference.
For many reasons, too many young, non-competitive athletes can become a hindrance to the team's success.
Best of luck!
In addition to the above, which is all very true...
Its WAY late in the recruiting process for initial contact with a coach at a serious program. Most top recruits have already signed letter's of intent, and coaches are busy filling holes in the recruiting class with secondary recruits who they've likely been in touch with for nearly a year already.
You must have already applied by this point, maybe the coach has seen your transcript and knows you aren't a match for the school. If you won't be taking no for an answer, and are clearly desperate to get in touch with them, is it because you think you need help getting accepted?
You want to make sure that you meet the walk-on standards for the team, and then get an invitation to do that after you enroll and start at school.
It's OK to let the coach know that running XC/track is an important part of the college experience you are looking for, and your decision to attend the school will be influenced by knowing this is an option for you. It's more likely to get this answer via e-mail. If you want to have a phone conversation, schedule a time to give the coach a call--similar to if you visit campus. If you don't get an answer, then you can ask an admissions officer for help contacting the coach. You don't want to enroll at the school and then be disappointed this is not an option for you and then change schools.
HowShouldIApproach wrote:
I am good enough to run for this program and I am a senior in HS. I will not take no for an answer and want to call the coach flat out and tell him. Is this a good idea?
1/10
You get a score of 1/10 based on the slim possibility that you're not trolling and actually ARE the arrogant dick that you seem to be. I wouldn't have you on my team for the simple reason that you're obviously a self-absorbed whiner and potential team cancer.
Reasons he won't call wrote:
If he isn't contacting you, there could be several reasons why:
-Your PR's aren't good enough
-Their roster is too full and they can't take many recruits
-The coach is busy worrying about indoor conferences coming up right now
-You have a bad attitude and doesn't want you in the team atmosphere
-You come from a high school program with a history of creating burnouts/people who just get worse in college
If you do plan on calling him, wait until after the indoor conference weekend and maybe send an email or a text asking when a good time to call would be.
Best of Luck
I would keep trying to contact him until you get a response. Worst case, he says no. However, I did not hear back from my current college coach when I was a senior in high school, and I kept contacting until I did. Sometimes emails slip through and it ends up working out in your favor. This will show that you are persistent and serious about being on the team, which coaches want.
alright real talk, stop being ignorant. He was making a point that he does indeed have the times and is very committed to running for the program. Take the words for what they are, not your whack interpretation.
Go their rival school and whoop their asses on and off the track. The only real answer.
Sorry if I came off cocky in my original post, I did not mean to at all. I do not think I am some elite runner either, I am just frustrated by the situation at hand because I have been working my ass off and producing some good results. As for the guy who said it is late to contact the coach; I have been contact him since the beginning of my junior year. And yes, I have decent grades, but I want a definite into the school because it is pretty good academically, and I don't know 100% if I could get into the school on my own or not.
si senor wrote:
alright real talk, stop being ignorant. He was making a point that he does indeed have the times and is very committed to running for the program. Take the words for what they are, not your whack interpretation.
How can he be committed to running for the program if he's never met or spoke with the coach, or a single member of the team? They may well be committed to trying to run at college, and may think this school is perfect for them socially/academically/whatever, but they seem to know nothing about the program aside from some results pages.
Let's take a look at what also could be the issue. One possibility is his/her team is at the max number of participants or by gender. Another issue could be something many athletes don't realize. In high school your season goes into the middle of June. Unless you are qualified your season will be over the first week of May. So in high school you as much as six (6) weeks of warmer weather to obtain your times. This can be compounded by a team that is in the Northeast that doesn't have an indoor program. On a good year your first meet might possibly be the 25th of March with a meet every weekend. You would compete 1, 8, 15, 22, & 29 of April. Now the only meets remaining are those with qualifying standards. I have had seasons when three (3) of our six (6) meets have been iced or snowed out. Keep in mind I am using this year's calendar and you will run on Easter weekend and not go home for spring break. Just wanted to show another view. With all of this said as a long time coach I think the coach in question should tell you his/her reason for not getting back to you. If he/she felt you would help the team they would want you. Best of luck.
HowShouldIApproach wrote:
I have been working my ass off and producing some good results. As for the guy who said it is late to contact the coach; I have been contact him since the beginning of my junior year.
You are not only competing against who is already on the team but other seniors in high school. Maybe he is slow playing you and trying to find out if higher priority recruits are going.