Paper link at UPI link below.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/02/15/Endurance-athletes-Swig-mouthwash-for-improved-performance/9761487193969/Paper link at UPI link below.
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/02/15/Endurance-athletes-Swig-mouthwash-for-improved-performance/9761487193969/Results:
Completion time for S was faster than C (1:03:47±00:02:17 vs. 1:06:56±00:02:18; p < 0.001 respectively), and showed a trend to be faster vs. S100:1 (1:03:47±00:02:17 vs. 1:05:38±00:02:12; p=0.07, respectively). No other TT differences were found. Average HR showed a trend to be higher for S vs. C (p=0.08). There only differences in average or max RPE was for higher max RPE in C vs. S1:1 (p=0.02).
I don't think 8 miles (12.8km) in a bit over an hour is exactly elite class (even for a woman).
There is prior research for cyclists. Effect of Mouth-Rinsing Carbohydrate Solutions on Endurance Performance
Rollo, I. & Williams, C. Sports Med (2011) 41: 449
http://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/11588730-000000000-00000Like this is new 2 the experts wrote:
No, it's not new, and in fact everyone is on their own program nowadays (remember the bottle mixup in Rio?).
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-014-0148-zI used to have my HS distance runners rinse with mouthwash just before going to the starting line to help eliminate or reduce cotton mouth.
Kenyans have been doing this for ages.
also a similar idea/research using a 'Bitter' tasting drink (usually tonic water) for power based events, sprints and throws etc
One possible issue with the research was that the time trials were consecutively (with a 2 minute break in between each) and the sugary substance one was run first.
Sorry, it's irrelevant IMO wrote:
Results:Completion time for S was faster than C (1:03:47±00:02:17 vs. 1:06:56±00:02:18; p < 0.001 respectively), and showed a trend to be faster vs. S100:1 (1:03:47±00:02:17 vs. 1:05:38±00:02:12; p=0.07, respectively). No other TT differences were found. Average HR showed a trend to be higher for S vs. C (p=0.08). There only differences in average or max RPE was for higher max RPE in C vs. S1:1 (p=0.02).
I don't think 8 miles (12.8km) in a bit over an hour is exactly elite class (even for a woman).
Where did the paper say the runners were "elite class"?
Hmmm..... wrote:
One possible issue with the research was that the time trials were consecutively (with a 2 minute break in between each) and the sugary substance one was run first.
A possible issue? That's an understatement
Heart rate was also higher for the sucrose test, meaning people tried harder. Wasn't a blind study either
So they each ran over 31 miles on an indoor track in one session for this? very interesting!2/10 cuz you got me to look at the study.
Hmmm..... wrote:
One possible issue with the research was that the time trials were consecutively (with a 2 minute break in between each) and the sugary substance one was run first.
reed wrote:
Hmmm..... wrote:One possible issue with the research was that the time trials were consecutively (with a 2 minute break in between each) and the sugary substance one was run first.
A possible issue? That's an understatement
Heart rate was also higher for the sucrose test, meaning people tried harder. Wasn't a blind study either
How would you blind a sweet taste? And if people "tried harder" due to the sugary drink, wouldn't that be significant?
Ho Hum wrote:
reed wrote:A possible issue? That's an understatement
Heart rate was also higher for the sucrose test, meaning people tried harder. Wasn't a blind study either
How would you blind a sweet taste? And if people "tried harder" due to the sugary drink, wouldn't that be significant?
maybe artificial sweetener? idk. and no, the point of time trials is that you try equally hard in each of them.
Fake news. Okay, maybe it's just a misleading headline. Mouthwash contains alcohol, alcohol kills bacteria, and bacteria are responsible for nitrite production, which improves oxygen-carrying capacity (ever wonder why some Olympians drink beet juice? It isn't for the taste). Thus, swishing alcohol-containing mouthwash should IMPAIR performance. However, swishing a mouthful of sugary drink apparently provides some sort of performance benefit. Always good to read the body of the text, not just the headline. Carry on.
reed wrote:
Ho Hum wrote:How would you blind a sweet taste? And if people "tried harder" due to the sugary drink, wouldn't that be significant?
maybe artificial sweetener? idk. and no, the point of time trials is that you try equally hard in each of them.
LOL looks like we're both too lazy to read the article -- they did a control with sucralose, which had no effect.
And I think if some substance causes you to try harder in a time trial, that is significant. I doubt it would matter in a 5k, but maybe in a longer event, 10k+, where you're forced to keep a high level of intensity and focus for a long time, it would help. I may try this for my next boring marathon workout.
Ho Hum wrote:
And I think if some substance causes you to try harder in a time trial, that is significant. I doubt it would matter in a 5k, but maybe in a longer event, 10k+, where you're forced to keep a high level of intensity and focus for a long time, it would help. I may try this for my next boring marathon workout.
Has anyone done a study to determine if having hot babes cheer them on makes guys go faster?
I honestly think hot babes cheering is likely a detriment more than anything as ppl speed up out of proper pacing zones like an idiot and then bonk later on.
I swish my own urine in my mouth......and the mouths of others.
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon