I dunno, I agree the guy is guilty, but $100 million is a little steep.
I dunno, I agree the guy is guilty, but $100 million is a little steep.
Why the heck would he personally be on the hook? The whole team should be on the hook. And Landis gets a cut? F him.
LA is a nasty vindictive piece of work who is getting what's coming to him by the shovel load.
USPS will settle for 20m at most (likely 10) or lose.
When the federal government sues you, you automatically lose. Lol
Sophisticated analysis.
LA is a nasty vindictive... wrote:
LA is a nasty vindictive piece of work who is getting what's coming to him by the shovel load.
It all comes to this. LA tried to destroy the whistleblowers even going after the sports gold standard Greg Lemond.
Lance Armstrong made at least 100 million off the sport, trough prizes, sponsorship and cynically double-dipping Livestrong.org with Livestrong.com.
He is a FRAUD. Always was.
gilt wrote:
I dunno, I agree the guy is guilty, but $100 million is a little steep.
It is steep when you consider that those demanding that money back already made a profit on Armstrong. Now they want to increase their profit much more. The loser are those who bought things from those people who will never see a dime back.
hang em all or none at all wrote:
Why the heck would he personally be on the hook? The whole team should be on the hook. And Landis gets a cut? F him.
He, was the figurehead for the fraud. Thom Wiesel is too rich and not well known.
Nobody is getting paid. Armstrong will claim he's broke... Thom Wiesel isn't broke..
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Should have thought about this before cheating.
The overweight MAMILS (middle-aged men in lycra) who bought Armstrong-branded Trek bikes certainly feel they got their money's worth from their bikes. How do I know? When I run hills I still catch and pass groups of them. Sometimes I'll slow a little bit just to tease them into thinking they can keep up if they work harder. Only then do they stop talking about their bikes.
More Money Money wrote:
It is steep when you consider that those demanding that money back already made a profit on Armstrong. Now they want to increase their profit much more. The loser are those who bought things from those people who will never see a dime back.
He got what he deserved. Everything is as expected.
I agree with Armstrong's argument that the USPS suffered no damages and got what they wanted in terms of exposure, so I hope he wins the court case. The USPS Cycling team was highly visible through those years, and certainly got the kind of attention that that kind of advertising aspires to. They certainly got way more advertising value from winning the TDF than if the USPS was a run-of-the-mill team. And they want ALL that money back? Free, top-level advertising for years?
English! wrote:
Sophisticated analysis.
Unfortunately he is correct.
I hate lance.
I love lance.
I don't know why, but that article really irked me on the fact that the USPS shouldnt be owned by the government. I was kind of on the fence about whether the USPS was a public service or a communist business that shouldn't. Reading that article made up my mind. The government shouldn't be running businesses
Jimmy21 wrote:
I don't know why, but that article really irked me on the fact that the USPS shouldnt be owned by the government. I was kind of on the fence about whether the USPS was a public service or a communist business that shouldn't. Reading that article made up my mind. The government shouldn't be running businesses
A business would say "screw you" to people living in remote areas. It's good to have a working mail system that is available and affordable for everyone. It's an essential service.
I was never a lance fan at all, the guy had no humility at all. However he is being raked over the coals too much. I say leave him alone, he is old news, ALL the other riders in the peloton were also on PEDs.
I guess they are keeping the pressure on because of his arrogance over the years.
The biggest loser in this was Lemond himself. Armstrong basically ruined his business, and you can tell the toll has taken a huge stress on him. Lance deserves what's coming to him, even though the USPS definitely benefited way more than they were harmed.
I agree that it's also ridiculous that Landis is getting a cut. He knew what was going on and could've walked away. What these cyclists did was criminal, even if half the peloton was doped. The whistleblowers should simply get immunity and that's it.
The biggest fraud of all was Armstrong basically "coming back" at age 37 to prove to his kids he was clean. It's like he doesn't have a conscience.