Olympic champ Dalilah Muhammad: "It's insane what America is becoming"

DiscoGary wrote:

Actually, I'm an ideologue who believes that we need to return to Constitutionally limited government and obey our owns laws.

Then it would follow that if it's found that Trump commits a serious crime, violation of federal law and/or violates the US Constitution while in office that you would support his impeachment and, pending conviction, removal from office.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Actually, I'm an ideologue who believes that we need to return to Constitutionally limited government and obey our owns laws.

Then it would follow that if it's found that Trump commits a serious crime, violation of federal law and/or violates the US Constitution while in office that you would support his impeachment and, pending conviction, removal from office.

Why didn't you hold Obama to that standard?

No Democrat did. The tsunami of hypocrisy coming from the left is ridiculous. No intellectual integrity at all. None.

DiscoGary wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

Then it would follow that if it's found that Trump commits a serious crime, violation of federal law and/or violates the US Constitution while in office that you would support his impeachment and, pending conviction, removal from office.

Why didn't you hold Obama to that standard?

No Democrat did. The tsunami of hypocrisy coming from the left is ridiculous. No intellectual integrity at all. None.

Show me the ruling. When did the House of Representatives charge President Obama with a crime? If the House GOP is willing to charge Clinton with perjury over consensual sex, they'd be more than happy to do so with any kernel of anything they could pin on Obama.

Go ahead and address how you would respond to if Obama had been facing these allegations that Trump is facing now.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Why didn't you hold Obama to that standard?

No Democrat did. The tsunami of hypocrisy coming from the left is ridiculous. No intellectual integrity at all. None.

Show me the ruling. When did the House of Representatives charge President Obama with a crime? If the House GOP is willing to charge Clinton with perjury over consensual sex, they'd be more than happy to do so with any kernel of anything they could pin on Obama.

Go ahead and address how you would respond to if Obama had been facing these allegations that Trump is facing now.

Republicans never went after Obama because they didn't want to be called racists. They easily could have pushed the Fast-and-Furious or IRS Tea Party scandals all the way to the top but didn't. Again, the Obama admin simply wasn't held accountable for real crimes and scandals.

You are too partisan to see it.

DiscoGary wrote:

Obama was held to no standard at all, while the Trump administration is being ripped apart from every corner.

That's right Costanza. It's not a lie if you believe it!

Completely baseless. Were GOP Congressman afraid of losing the liberal, black vote? There's a laundry list of critics in Congress who felt no need to hold their tongue.

You are too partisan to see that the administration was investigated by Congress, led by the opposition party, and there was nothing to grab hold of.

"It is both a right and a responsibility of a democratic society to manage immigration so that it serves the national interest. We disagree with those who would label efforts to control immigration as being inherently anti-immigrant. Rather, it is both a right and a responsibility of a democratic society to manage immigration so that it serves the national interest. Our patience is growing thin toward those attempting to overwhelm the will of the American people by acts that ignore, manipulate, or circumvent our immigration laws. Unless this country does a better job in curbing illegal immigration, we risk irreparably undermining our commitment to legal immigration. Any nation worth its salt must control its borders." --Donald Trump

That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

DiscoGary wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

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Obama was criticized like every other president.

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You are saying Obama was criticized the same way Trump is being criticized right now? When? How can you say something like that?

Watching history get rewritten in real time is a sobering thing. It really helps one understand how all the truly horrible things happened in the past. If this many people can be misled so badly and so quickly, then it's easy to see how a peaceful tolerant country can slide into oppression within weeks.

It's shocking.

You are a crazy person who creates his own reality.

rw media, tea party, and congress went pretty ballistic in 2009-10. The issues at the time were health care and bailouts. There were some missteps in those early days, and subsequent blow ups, but no major issues regarding corruption, etc.

I love all this self-righteous BS from a country which calls itself the land of the free whilst having racial segregation until 1964...What a joke.