Ben Saarel ran a 4:01 on the CU home track with Perrin and Klecker right behind him. Is no one going to talk about this?
Ben Saarel ran a 4:01 on the CU home track with Perrin and Klecker right behind him. Is no one going to talk about this?
So,give him a medal then. Some HS kid ran 4:00.x a few weeks ago.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy that they put up a headline for the UTEP guys at the Albuquerque meet and completely missed this result. Top 4 guys ran effectively 3:57 or better. That's one heck of a race at 5400 ft. I think the only race run faster in Colorado history was when Manzano ran the 1500 up there for Big 12.
No chance that his converted time holds any water at sea level. These conversions areally always bs
Wait
I am not going to talk about this.
Impressive altitude results, however 2 of those 3 have not run the equivalent at sea level. Saarel is the closest with his 338. Klecker running 1344 isn't bad but still not on same level as 355. Let's see what happens when they go to sea level before crowning them.
Why is letsrun so obsessed with this kid?
cowatcher12391 wrote:
Ben Saarel ran a 4:01 on the CU home track with Perrin and Klecker right behind him. Is no one going to talk about this?
That has to be the fastest mile ever run on CO soil, no? And, yes, a six second conversion to sea level is legit from that altitude.
CU's new indoor track would likely be the fastest in the country if not for the elevation. Unreal facility that can produce fast times.
Game Changer wrote:
CU's new indoor track would likely be the fastest in the country if not for the elevation. Unreal facility that can produce fast times.
True, but it's 300 meters, unbanked, correct? Still a smokin time...
Golden Buffalo wrote:
Game Changer wrote:CU's new indoor track would likely be the fastest in the country if not for the elevation. Unreal facility that can produce fast times.
True, but it's 300 meters, unbanked, correct? Still a smokin time...
I believe the curves are nearly identical to an outdoor track. I'm not arguing the impressiveness of the time. It's very good. However, this track is likely faster than an outdoor track. If someone is going to break 4:00 for the mile in CO it will be on this track.
when has there ever been a banked 300m?
Colorado MILE soil record is held by Tabor Stevens - 4:01.27
Saarel Et. Al. from Friday now sit 2-3-4-5 on the mile list, indoor or out.
Manzano recorded 3:41.80 in 2008 at Big 12 champs. The conversion would yield a sub 4:00. But it wasn't a mile, it was a 1500. Still a fantastic mark and a great race. Stephen Pifer was second in 3:43.65. While not sub 4 with a conversion, it would rank in the top 5 for CO soil mark.
There have been numerous "downhill" mile races, which are not hard to find in state, that have yielded sub 4 times. While still fast times, no where remotely close to a record eligible course.
There have also been reports of fast times in "unofficial" settings. A very likely story, but not witnessed by many was Jorge Torres running under 4 minutes for 1600 in his lead up to the 2008 Olympics at the Fairview high school track.
Also some stories floating around of CU time trials with blazing times.
As with anything labeled a RECORD, it should be done in an official setting (timing system) on a legitimate course. For this record, that will require a track.
The Astrodome! It was 352 yards and gently banked.
http://www.si.com/vault/1969/02/03/558459/the-meet-of-the-future-is-now
Game Changer wrote:
CU's new indoor track would likely be the fastest in the country if not for the elevation. Unreal facility that can produce fast times.
I thought CU was known for having a really crappy indoor track
Is this track new? From the pictures it looked new?
NOP Skeptic wrote:
Game Changer wrote:CU's new indoor track would likely be the fastest in the country if not for the elevation. Unreal facility that can produce fast times.
I thought CU was known for having a really crappy indoor track
Is this track new? From the pictures it looked new?
Look at the second word in the post you quoted and you'll have your answer.
Intersting, never would have thought that to be an idea/ necessary.
Game Changer wrote:
this track is likely faster than an outdoor track.
No.
It is smaller, and therefore it is slower.
Can't believe it is getting close to 8 years since Jorge comfortably ran well under 4 minutes for a mile at Fairview in preparation for his 10K in Beijing.
Oh wait, I forget there was no rail ... still one of the more impressive things I saw running wise in Boulder.
conversions can be accurate, just look at christian soratos. He had a 356 conversion, and then next week ran 355 at sea level.