Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

DiscoGary wrote:

foo wrote:

Intelligence and the ability to win an election are two completely different qualities. Trump is the best used car salesman around. He sold a slightly less than majority of the voters a pack of lies and they believed him. This has nothing to do with intelligence.

Wrong again. It turns out that Trump's "lies" were actually promises which he has kept. Trump is not a politician and it turns out that he doesn't know that Republicans are supposed lie to their base and then stab them in the back when elected. Trump is doing what he said he would. Even I didn't predict that would happen.

You mean these lies? (all confirmed lies):

He would show us his tax returns.

He would hire the best people.

Mexico would pay for the wall.

He would sue all the women who have accused him of sexual harassment.

He now has said that's not his voice on the Access Hollywood tape.

Between 3 and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote.

That the US took in tens of thousands of people with no vetting (vetting is a long process taking up to 2 years).

Repealing Obamacare would be "so easy" (and no, it wasn't repealed just because the mandate is gone)

He knew more about ISIS as a candidate than the Generals did. "Believe me".

That the press doesn't report on terrorism.

That he saw thousands of Muslims celebrating on 9/11.

That his electoral college victory was the biggest since Reagan.

That the murder rate under Obama was the highest in 47 years.

Said NATO was obsolete and that it didn't fight terrorism.

Plants being built in Michigan that wouldn't have if he weren't elected.

Saying that he didn't change his stance on China as a currency manipulator.

Said we have a $17 billion trade deficit with Canada (actually have a $8.1 billion trade surplus)

There is "substantial evidence of voter fraud."

The Senate seat won in a special election by a Democrat had been "held for more than thirty years by Republicans."

Said Dianne Feinstein said "there is no collusion" between the Trump campaign and Russia.

"We have signed more legislation than anybody. We broke the record of Harry Truman." (he is in fact last all that way back to Eisenhower).

"Black homeownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the history of our country."

"Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI." (not once actually)

Says the tax bill "is going to cost me a fortune, this thing -- believe me. Believe me, this is not good for me."

Says the GOP plan is "the biggest tax cut in U.S. history." Nope. 8th.

"We're the highest developed nation taxed in the world."

The Obama administration "borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. ... Maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt." - Shows incredible stupidity

"Bob Corker gave us the Iran Deal."

"We have one senator who’s a ‘yes’ vote ... but he’s in the hospital. And he’s a ‘yes’ vote. So we can’t do it by Friday. So we have the votes" to pass a health care bill.

"We stopped traffic coming through -- 78 percent."

"We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently."

"There aren't too many people outside protesting" his speech at the Phoenix Convention Center. (was thousands).

Wages "haven’t gone up for a long time." 3 years of steady increases when he said that.

I could go on and on. You should NEVER get into a discussion about lying and Donald Trump if you expect to either show that he doesn't lie or that anyone else ever in the history of the university lies more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

POT2KETTLE wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Yep. Brilliant. Quick-witted. Talented as a performer (trained in improv, acting, and standup) with amazing stage presence who can even dance and sing.

Yep on Colbert, almost as performed as Obama was for 8 years, but you applauded his act. Pot to Kettle, come in.

Wait for his comeback, it'll be spectacular as he's never wrong...oh wait, I forgot about:):):):):)

Trump came and kicked a$$ with a win in the popular vote, not including the overly liberal state of California and their illegals. Otherwise, we won everything. How sad for Flags Magoo.

I won't respond to crazy time, brother. Bring something that is truthful and I may give you a real response next time.

Forget for a minute about the interpretation of the numbers you are posting. The problem is not how many jobs where added or who created them. The problem is that you claimed Trump would crash the economy and the world, and that Obama was such a great president. The problem is that all your predictions were wrong because you guys are not smarter than anyone else. Even in the face of the fact that Trump added 2+ million jobs you can even admit the guy is not doing bad for the economy. Now, you may claim the republicans bashed Obama's numbers, and they did. However, you claim to be better the know nothing republicans and yet you do the same thing.

L L wrote:

Trump likes to call himself the jobs president.

Jobs, job, jobs was his mantra.

In 2016 the US added a net of 2.24 million new jobs. (Obama's last full year in office)

In 2017 the US netted 2.06 million new jobs. (Trump's first year in office less the 19 days of Obama in January)

Why did job growth slow under Trump?

(I will say that presidents get too much credit and blame for these things but wanted to point out the stats anyway. and the final number may change)

There is no evidence that Obama is a relative smart person. Please post your evidence. Why do keep fabricating facts?

Flagpole wrote:

foo wrote:

Intelligence and the ability to win an election are two completely different qualities. Trump is the best used car salesman around. He sold a slightly less than majority of the voters a pack of lies and they believed him. This has nothing to do with intelligence.

Yep. This is true. There is no credible evidence anywhere that Trump is even a relatively smart person. Mark Cuban (Republican) said initially he tried to help Trump but then was turned off because Trump would not read anything and refused to learn. This was why he supported Hillary.

When the press is being nice to Trump (which is more often than they should), they describe him as "not intellectually curious". This is not a choice. The man is just flat out dumb.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

That makes no logical sense. Just because Putin wanted Trump to win, doesn't mean he is as smart as Putin. Here is Russian Television talking in circles about supporting and/or not supporting Trump.

Really Trump is dumb.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/margarita-simonyan-rt-editor-in-chief-60-minutes-russia-election-meddling-michael-flynn/

A "dumb" billionaire. I wish I was so dumb that I amassed a multi billion dollar fortune. I must be smart as hell then.

Understand that when I say dumb, I am relating that to the demands of his office. As far as the intelligence level adequate to do his job competently, yes he is DUMB.

Even those closest to him share this opinion of him (Tillerson, Bannon and many others).

One Dark Night USA (Idaho) One dark night in the middle of the day, Two dead boys came out to play. Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other. A deaf policeman heard the noise, Came inside and shot the two dead boys.

So your problem with me is that you claim that I claimed Trump would crash the economy and the world.

I never claimed that.

That falsehood of yours was very Trump-like.

My biggest problem with Trump was always his demeanor. He is childish and divisive.

That holds up.

But specifically to the economy, was that he wouldn't do anything to specifically help the forgot working class person.

He isn't doing anything in particular for the economy. The economy runs itself.

In bad times, the president can show leadership and take initiatives to help.

In good times, it's best to get out of the way and let them roll.

Trump has reduced regulations like letting farmers dump poison in the water that makes things cheaper for them.

And he has now borrowed a tom of money for tax breaks that will, I admit, help some with jobs.

But for those things - at what cost?

Future environmental problems and bill due to be paid later.

But back to jobs again - what actions are legislation has he signed that helps with jobs and how?

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

That makes no logical sense. Just because Putin wanted Trump to win, doesn't mean he is as smart as Putin. Here is Russian Television talking in circles about supporting and/or not supporting Trump.

Really Trump is dumb.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/margarita-simonyan-rt-editor-in-chief-60-minutes-russia-election-meddling-michael-flynn/

A "dumb" billionaire. I wish I was so dumb that I amassed a multi billion dollar fortune. I must be smart as hell then.

So, money is your measuring stick for intelligence? Weird.

1) Dude was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Some estimations are that he would be worth as much or more than he is if he had just invested all that money rather than continue his father's business.

2) His companies have had to file for bankruptcy 6 times.

3) He says he is worth $10 billion or more. When he became President, the real estimate was about $3 billion, and since then it has been said he might have lost as much as $700 million.

4) He screwed over US banks so much that none of them will loan him any money any more, so how much is he really worth if he has to borrow so much? He won't show us his tax returns, so we may never know.

5) There isn't a serious businessperson in the US (who doesn't just want to suck up to him) that calls him a successful businessman. Mitt Romney sure isn't impressed.

All you have to do is listen to him speak to know how smart or not he is. "I have the best words". Sure you do Donald. Sure you do.

its_baddude wrote:

There is no evidence that Obama is a relative smart person. Please post your evidence. Why do keep fabricating facts?

Flagpole wrote:

Yep. This is true. There is no credible evidence anywhere that Trump is even a relatively smart person. Mark Cuban (Republican) said initially he tried to help Trump but then was turned off because Trump would not read anything and refused to learn. This was why he supported Hillary.

When the press is being nice to Trump (which is more often than they should), they describe him as "not intellectually curious". This is not a choice. The man is just flat out dumb.

What are you smoking? One simple stat - he served as the president of the Harvard Law Review, which is the most prestigious in the country. Do you have any idea what level of intellectual accomplishments it takes to get elected to that position? Obviously, no you don't if you believe somehow he's on par with Trump.

Conundrum wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

A "dumb" billionaire. I wish I was so dumb that I amassed a multi billion dollar fortune. I must be smart as hell then.

Understand that when I say dumb, I am relating that to the demands of his office. As far as the intelligence level adequate to do his job competently, yes he is DUMB.

Even those closest to him share this opinion of him (Tillerson, Bannon and many others).

Well, when I say dumb, I mean as compared to all Americans who aren't mentally challenged. He is clearly not a bright man, or, I suppose he could just have a serious learning issue or attention issue, but even for those people, you usually see a glimmer of their intelligence if they actually are intelligent. With him you just a dim bulb, and those around him say the same thing...that not only is he stupid but that he is lazy as well.

Every time he goes golfing, you Trumpers should feel a little bit of yourselves die. You CAN rid yourself of that...finally admit to yourself that he is inept, stupid, and unhinged. Get together and find a Republican you would like to run next time. Put your efforts there to push conservative values. You gain nothing by having a complete a$$hole as the face of your party. And don't try to compare him as an a$$hole to either Clinton or Obama or anyone else. Trump is in a league of his own there.

It speaks volumes about the intellect of some of his supporters that they think Trump is an intelligent guy merely because he's wealthy. Surely this poster believes Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton are brilliant as well, since they have some money.

PortlandXCgirl wrote:

I don’t usually read this thread or post here but I have a question that I thought you guys might be able to answer.

What channel should I go to to watch the “MOST DISHONEST AND CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR?” Also, when Trump announced that it would take place at 5:00 PM, was he referring to the Eastern time zone?

Thanks in advance.

You're just gender biased and wanted a woman in office, nothing more. Hillary did a lot worse than words to interns at the White House. Do some research old lady and learn who you were backing. What a douche!

Flagpole wrote:

POT2KETTLE wrote:

Yep on Colbert, almost as performed as Obama was for 8 years, but you applauded his act. Pot to Kettle, come in.

Wait for his comeback, it'll be spectacular as he's never wrong...oh wait, I forgot about:):):):):)

Trump came and kicked a$$ with a win in the popular vote, not including the overly liberal state of California and their illegals. Otherwise, we won everything. How sad for Flags Magoo.

I won't respond to crazy time, brother. Bring something that is truthful and I may give you a real response next time.

Ummmm....you already did respond to him. For the record, I don't think anyone on here cares if you respond or not. I think it's more that they know you read the post (you basically live here and this is your life) and avoid the posts that you know you can't defend against, which is the majority. You've been soundly defeated by its_baddude, We the People, Disco Gary, Hardloper, Man overboard, Polly Plumper, etc..all owned you as you had ZERO to no comeback. I hope you are cold in Ohio, really cold.

Take away California and Trump wins the popular vote, totally true.

Obama presented a big act and faked out non-thinkers like you, totally true.

foo wrote:

Winning an election is simply about being the most popular choice. (In this case it was about being the least unpopular choice in some arbitrary states.) Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. So what if there were a lot of smart people who didn't want him as POTUS? You could probably make that claim about every individual who became POTUS.

Intelligence means results and President Trump had a plan and got the results. He was smart enough to promote working Americans instead of insult them (Hillary wasn't). He was smart enough to campaign in Wisconsin and Michigan (Hillary wasn't). Trump was smart enough to know that "America first" is a whole lot more appealing than the narcissistic and vomit-inducing slogan "I'm with her." If Hillary's staff of 823 people was more "intelligent" then a lot of good that did because look where it got them. LOL

Trollminator wrote:

It speaks volumes about the intellect of some of his supporters that they think Trump is an intelligent guy merely because he's wealthy. Surely this poster believes Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton are brilliant as well, since they have some money.

Those people aren't geniuses but they are pretty smart. They know how to sell themselves and make people like you obsessed with them.

Trollminator wrote:

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What are you smoking? One simple stat - he served as the president of the Harvard Law Review, which is the most prestigious in the country. Do you have any idea what level of intellectual accomplishments it takes to get elected to that position? Obviously, no you don't if you believe somehow he's on par with Trump.

Apparently it takes no intellectual accomplishments at all to become editor of the Harvard Law Review, because no one can find anything Obama wrote during that period, and there are no other discernible achievements of his that would justify being made editor.

In fact Obama doesn't appear to have ever accomplished anything at any time. He admits that he didn't do well in high school other than smoking pot, yet was admitted to Columbia and Harvard, apparently as some form of affirmative action.

We have to assume that he didn't do very well in college because his transcripts were never released.

He become Senator of Illinois having done nothing.

He became President having done nothing.

Obama has led an "affirmative action" life and rode white guilt all the way to the white house.

On the other hand I can look out the window of my office and see a sky scraper built by Trump.

By your definition of intelligence, Trump has failed miserably in life beyond getting elected. In what other capacity, besides as a TV personality and presidential candidate, has he "gotten results"?

- Growing up he was a misfit and blowhard, no one liked him = fail

- His businesses endured multiple bankruptcies and he lost more money (%-wise) than millions of Americans who kept their money in a simple S&P-indexed mutual fund = not exactly successful

- Multiple failed marriages

- Numerous allegations of rape and harassment = fail

- Barely getting anything passed so far as President, despite the GOP controlling everything = fail

So explain how he's getting results again? Oh you mean he was elected President so he's a clear winner and nothing else matters, gotcha. He did well as a TV celebrity (most of his net worth) and successfully exploited public sentiment to get in the WH - can't dispute that. Those are his "success" results, there is nothing else.

Sorry brother - no form of affirmative action can get someone as far he got without hard work and intelligence. Given what he was up against as a black man and someone who didn't come from money, he is a true aberration to have gotten so far, and that cannot be simply reduced because YOU say there was white guilt. Are you sure Trump BUILT that skyscraper?

its_baddude wrote:

There is no evidence that Obama is a relative smart person. Please post your evidence. Why do keep fabricating facts?

First of all, I never said anything about Obama being "relatively" smart, but since you asked, there are so many ways to determine if he is or not.

1) He not only went to Columbia for his undergrad degree and then Harvard for his JD, but he was the President of the Harvard Law Review. They don't give that to chumps. Yes, Trump also went to an Ivy League school, but he JUST has a BS, and he was admitted due to his wealthy father whereas Obama got in on his own merits.

2) All you have to do is listen to him speak or read anything he has written. His words are those of an intelligent and educated man. Trump does not do that and does not have the ability to do it.

Trump - "I know words, I have the best words."

Trump sure sounds smart.