Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

We THe People wrote:

You still amaze me!!!!!

You actually believe that Russia helped send out emails to people that it affected their brains so much that they switched from Hillary to Donald...you actually believe that? If that's true, then it just shows how dumb Hillary voters are, doesn't it? How can you answer to that? Simple, you can't.

If Russia helped with emails, SO WHAT!!!!

I never received an email and I am not tied to any party thru social media.

Think of how many emails, tv commercials, interviews, etc...that were done by both sides. Now you tell me that Russia put out emails---stay with me now---that someone read and it changed their mind on who to vote for, is that right?

Flagpole, the biggest Democratic Liar that I've ever heard of on this entire thread>>>>would lead you to believe that people did in fact get emails that changed their voting minds (the simple minded like him).

Really now??? Please, post one of these emails as of course since we all got them, right?

I never received one email. I work for the Big 3 with 100's of other employees, not one person received an email.

So then, since our intelligence agencies said this, where are the emails that were stolen and published to help Trump win.

I'll give you till Saturday, how's that? You guys have gone on and on how Russian intervened, then show us the emails that were so persuasive to persuade voters to the right.

Flagpole brings it up constantly, but provides nothing. Surely he received one as they knew he was a far left guy and needed persuading, right?

I'm sure that they were much more persuading emails than Hillary Clinton's emails and commercials against Trump---those were surely honest as can be:):):)

Honestly, bring it Conundrum, LL, and Flagpole. You guys won't have an honest answer because there is none. It's hogwash.

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

We THe People wrote:

You still amaze me!!!!!

You actually believe that Russia helped send out emails to people that it affected their brains so much that they switched from Hillary to Donald...you actually believe that? If that's true, then it just shows how dumb Hillary voters are, doesn't it? How can you answer to that? Simple, you can't.

If Russia helped with emails, SO WHAT!!!!

I never received an email and I am not tied to any party thru social media.

Think of how many emails, tv commercials, interviews, etc...that were done by both sides. Now you tell me that Russia put out emails---stay with me now---that someone read and it changed their mind on who to vote for, is that right?

Flagpole, the biggest Democratic Liar that I've ever heard of on this entire thread>>>>would lead you to believe that people did in fact get emails that changed their voting minds (the simple minded like him).

Really now??? Please, post one of these emails as of course since we all got them, right?

I never received one email. I work for the Big 3 with 100's of other employees, not one person received an email.

So then, since our intelligence agencies said this, where are the emails that were stolen and published to help Trump win.

I'll give you till Saturday, how's that? You guys have gone on and on how Russian intervened, then show us the emails that were so persuasive to persuade voters to the right.

Flagpole brings it up constantly, but provides nothing. Surely he received one as they knew he was a far left guy and needed persuading, right?

I'm sure that they were much more persuading emails than Hillary Clinton's emails and commercials against Trump---those were surely honest as can be:):):)

Honestly, bring it Conundrum, LL, and Flagpole. You guys won't have an honest answer because there is none. It's hogwash.

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Night observer wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole,

That was a very incisive and powerful post. On the one hand I want to give you props for your thoroughly demolishing the pro Trump posts, but this is more than a your side competing with our side game.

What you so accurately explained was and is an ongoing attack on our democracy.

It's not just a game to win points. Your post should be more widely published to wake more people up so they fully understand what is at risk here.

I hope you share your persuasive thoughts with a much greater audience than the letsrun readership.

(If someone accuses me of being a flagpole fanboy, they would be right.......that was a quality post)

Night observer wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole,

That was a very incisive and powerful post. On the one hand I want to give you props for your thoroughly demolishing the pro Trump posts, but this is more than a your side competing with our side game.

What you so accurately explained was and is an ongoing attack on our democracy.

It's not just a game to win points. Your post should be more widely published to wake more people up so they fully understand what is at risk here.

I hope you share your persuasive thoughts with a much greater audience than the letsrun readership.

(If someone accuses me of being a flagpole fanboy, they would be right.......that was a quality post)

Flagpole wrote:

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Night observer wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Dude. Man oh man, you really don't know enough to be commenting on this. I really am not in the mood to have to constantly educate you Trumpers, but I will give you a try.

1) First of all, Russia isn't being charged with sending "e-mails". They were involved in an influence campaign that centered around the use of Social Media. An effective campaign such as that doesn't necessarily have to make someone switch from voting for Hillary to Trump, but it can help keep some voters at home while emboldening other voters. In the early parts of the campaign, I saw so many fake things posted on social media that were almost all in favor of Trump and against Hillary. Initially I pointed out these fake posts (all easily verifiable) to those who posted, but there were just too many...I had to give up. And OF COURSE advertising works...that's why companies, politicians, etc. do it, and spend an uncountable amount of money on it. Many of these lies about Hillary and Obama and Black Lives Matter and guns control and Muslims and then positive lies about Trump got great traction. Here in Central Ohio, the biggest AM radio station announced that President Obama had arranged to have his kids' grandmother receive $160,000 a year for life from taxpayer money. They talked about it, said that was typical of Obama, and callers called in and said crap about Democrats and how they were going to vote for Trump as a protest. I contacted the radio station and let them know that they had been duped by Russian fake news, something that had already been debunked. The host of the show then sent me an e-mail telling me he had integrity and that this came from a reliable source and that he didn't have time to check all the sources (um...then you can report it as fact; which I told him). This was just one topic on one radio station. The amount of social media fake news posts and memes were absolutely insane, at least here in Ohio, one of the target states because we are a swing state. Also, IF Russia had done an e-mail campaign, you likely wouldn't have gotten one at your Big 3 job because IT would have weeded out spam e-mail. I'm not sure overall general knowledge is your thing.

2) So, you believe you know more than our intelligence agencies? They declared without question that Russia, from direction of Putin himself, interfered in our election with a clear preference to have Trump elected and Hillary defeated. This is not made up. This is not partisan info. They haven't wavered or wondered if it were true...they have all said it for sure happened and that Putin was behind it all without question.

3) I would like to know what I have lied about. I've never said anything about e-mails, so you will have to mention something else.

4) The social media campaign was extremely strategic, so if you don't live in Ohio, FL, PA, MI, or WI, you likely didn't see much of it.

Now, getting past your ignorance on this issue, ask yourself why there are at least 20 people attached to the Trump campaign or administration that have significant ties to Russia (not France, not Canada, not Indonesia)? Why have some already been either charged or admitted to lying about Russia or charged with financial crimes associated with Russia? Why is Trump attacking Mueller and the FBI? If you were innocent of wrongdoing, wouldn't you be saying every day, "When this is over and I am found innocent, I will give the biggest 'I told you so' ever"? Trump doesn't do that. He attacks the investigators (ones that are Republican, appointed by Republicans and that Republicans and Democrats really endorsed early on until Mueller showed he is getting things done and getting closer to the White House and Trump). This is what Nixon did. He attacks the press except (like Nixon also did) for Fox News (and not even all of Fox News is on his side). Why do that? Because he is guilty and he is trying to seed doubt; doubt of the legitimacy of the press and the FBI and Mueller. It is all BS. Why did Trump say that if Mueller investigated his finances that that would be a "red line"? If he has nothing to hide, then he should be fine with it...it IS part of the investigative process in this case. Follow the money to see why someone might be inclined to accept help from a foreign enemy nation and then collude with them to defeat an opponent.

Is Hillary great? Nope. That's what allowed some of this to work. She was a very flawed candidate, though not nearly as bad as Donald Trump.

I assume you voted for Trump. How do you reconcile the lies he has told you?

Where are the taxes he said he would show you?

Why does he no longer say Mexico will pay for the wall?

Obamacare repeal was going to be "so easy" (technically that's not a lie, that was a falsehood)

Where are the lawsuits against the 19 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct?

Now, I have already put Polly Plumber in her (or his) place when she said I lied. I asked her to provide evidence, and she has not. I challenge you to do the same. What lies have I told? I will help you out...NONE.

You need to become more educated on this subject before you comment more.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole,

That was a very incisive and powerful post. On the one hand I want to give you props for your thoroughly demolishing the pro Trump posts, but this is more than a your side competing with our side game.

What you so accurately explained was and is an ongoing attack on our democracy.

It's not just a game to win points. Your post should be more widely published to wake more people up so they fully understand what is at risk here.

I hope you share your persuasive thoughts with a much greater audience than the letsrun readership.

(If someone accuses me of being a flagpole fanboy, they would be right.......that was a quality post)

XY wrote:

Flagpole, Mueller is coming, but not after Trump. The very reason Trump is pushing back on Mueller and the FBI is not because he's guilty, it's because he's innocent (of direct collusion). Trump knows that he can't be tied to Russian collusion so he generates perceived bravado and pomp by attacking the investigation. This is Trumps opportunity to punch back without any real risk. To appear tough to his base.

You have to know how difficult it would be to tie Trump to Russian collusion? Trumps' m.o. has always been to get close to the boundaries of the law, but not cross into illegality. He may be void of ethics, he may be insular and needy, but he's not stupid and he's a survivor. This does not mean I don't believe there was a concerted and effective Russian media based attack on HRC campaign. The attack was undoubtedly effective on a more susceptible voter population.

It's more likely one of the dozen or so women he assaulted will bring him down.

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XY wrote:

Flagpole, Mueller is coming, but not after Trump. The very reason Trump is pushing back on Mueller and the FBI is not because he's guilty, it's because he's innocent (of direct collusion). Trump knows that he can't be tied to Russian collusion so he generates perceived bravado and pomp by attacking the investigation. This is Trumps opportunity to punch back without any real risk. To appear tough to his base.

You have to know how difficult it would be to tie Trump to Russian collusion? Trumps' m.o. has always been to get close to the boundaries of the law, but not cross into illegality. He may be void of ethics, he may be insular and needy, but he's not stupid and he's a survivor. This does not mean I don't believe there was a concerted and effective Russian media based attack on HRC campaign. The attack was undoubtedly effective on a more susceptible voter population.

It's more likely one of the dozen or so women he assaulted will bring him down.

One of the dozen or so women that he allegedly assaulted will bring him down? What are you smoking?

Oh, you mean like when the lesbian intern tried to file a complaint on Hillary and ended up dead the day before she was to testify? Travelgate? Whitewater? Etc...you mean how Hillary was brought down for everything that she WAS involved with?

You couldn't be talking about Trump, you're talking about Hillary, correct?

Mueller is investigating alright, but Mr. "I guarantee" Flagpole is going to look even more ridiculous than he already does. He just can't sit and be quiet, he's got to open up his big mouth and post before he thinks. Pretty soon he'll post, "wait till Summer, you'll see". Now he's already going back on his guarantees. What a weasel.

XY wrote:

Flagpole, Mueller is coming, but not after Trump. The very reason Trump is pushing back on Mueller and the FBI is not because he's guilty, it's because he's innocent (of direct collusion). Trump knows that he can't be tied to Russian collusion so he generates perceived bravado and pomp by attacking the investigation. This is Trumps opportunity to punch back without any real risk. To appear tough to his base.

You have to know how difficult it would be to tie Trump to Russian collusion? Trumps' m.o. has always been to get close to the boundaries of the law, but not cross into illegality. He may be void of ethics, he may be insular and needy, but he's not stupid and he's a survivor. This does not mean I don't believe there was a concerted and effective Russian media based attack on HRC campaign. The attack was undoubtedly effective on a more susceptible voter population.

It's more likely one of the dozen or so women he assaulted will bring him down.