Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

As borders are closed, economic activity declines.

As no-cost labor dries up, supplies tighten and economic activity declines.

As trade agreements aren't made, economic activity declines.

As nothing gets done at the policy level, economic activity declines.

Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.

You go on ahead and fear someone that doesn't look like you.

uhmmm.. yea sure asshat, thats why the economy is booming and the border is tight like few before

When someone is arrested and forced to go somewhere against their will then that pretty much defines being treated as a criminal. They are doing this to people who have done nothing wrong, which is even worse than we treat criminals. At least with a criminal there is reasonable suspicion of guilt before an arrest is made. But Trump wants to round up people who are completely innocent.

its_baddude wrote:

They are not being treated as criminals. Criminals go to jail. They are just being returned to their country of origin.

Fat hurts wrote:

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

its_baddude wrote:

Lets try again. You said that Trump will donate $1 Million from the Trump foundation. I asked you how you knew this. You answered with nonsense.

I linked articles to well known publications which you dismissed out of your own bias.

Here is the President's spokesperson stating that she can't say whether the promised $1 million will come from Trump personally or the Trump Foundation

Here are all the Trump Foundation's recent 990-PF filings showing, on the list of contributors, that Donald Trump hasn't given any money to his own foundation since 2008.

You were out of line to accuse me of fabricating anything.

foo fighter wrote:

Since the beginning of time, children have suffered due to bad decisions of their parents, who broke the law & put kids in harms way. They are no strangers to the culture of their parents. Don't believe the hysteria & lies.

I think this is what Jesus said.

EC runner wrote:

Will Irma and Harvey affect federal funding for the "wall". If Irma is a big disaster I assume Fed $ for FEMA will be huge. Does this impact next years budget?

Irma puts the hurt on Mar-a-Lago? My guess is pretty quick....

It would help your point if you at least try to be honest. The border is not being closed. The law is being enforced. Maybe you should revert back to a previous version.The rest of the stuff is typed gibberish.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

foo fighter wrote:

I get the impression that the libs here have no idea of the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Trump continues to undo Obama's train wrecks, one day at a time.

As borders are closed, economic activity declines.

As no-cost labor dries up, supplies tighten and economic activity declines.

As trade agreements aren't made, economic activity declines.

As nothing gets done at the policy level, economic activity declines.

Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.

You go on ahead and fear someone that doesn't look like you.

foo fighter wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

Since the beginning of time, children have suffered due to bad decisions of their parents, who broke the law & put kids in harms way. They are no strangers to the culture of their parents. Don't believe the hysteria & lies.

What is your opinion on American public colleges that accept/enroll foreign students, educate them, and then send them back to their home country?

You did. I already explained to your, or tried to, that the documents you produced do not prove that Trump did not give money to the foundation. The documents you produced are biased, and only claimed that they could not find any evidence that Trump gave money. Innuendo is typical from the MSM. They use carefully crafted sentences and words to make someone appear guilty. I pointed out that it is possible that money that a third party would pay Trump could be sent to the Trump foundation instead.I also asked you how you knew that Trump foundation was giving 1 million dollars instead of Trump. You still have not answered that.So yes, you have made 2 claims that are wrong.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

its_baddude wrote:

Lets try again. You said that Trump will donate $1 Million from the Trump foundation. I asked you how you knew this. You answered with nonsense.

I linked articles to well known publications which you dismissed out of your own bias.

Here is the President's spokesperson stating that she can't say whether the promised $1 million will come from Trump personally or the Trump Foundation

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/903704506977935360

Here are all the Trump Foundation's recent 990-PF filings showing, on the list of contributors, that Donald Trump hasn't given any money to his own foundation since 2008.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/133404773

You were out of line to accuse me of fabricating anything.

DACA people are not being arrested unless they commit crimes. Again, you are making stuff up. In 6 months, if congress does not make a law, they will be asked to leave. At that point, if they don't comply with the law, they will be forcefully moved.

Fat hurts wrote:

When someone is arrested and forced to go somewhere against their will then that pretty much defines being treated as a criminal.

They are doing this to people who have done nothing wrong, which is even worse than we treat criminals. At least with a criminal there is reasonable suspicion of guilt before an arrest is made. But Trump wants to round up people who are completely innocent.

its_baddude wrote:

They are not being treated as criminals. Criminals go to jail. They are just being returned to their country of origin.

It's in the Trump Foundation's own 990-PF filings. How can there possibly be any bias?

Legally? You're fabricating a scenario where someone owes Donald Trump money and he tells them to not pay him directly, but instead donate to his charity. There is no reason to believe anything like that at all.

I quoted his spokesperson. She is allowing that this alleged donation may come from the Trump Foundation. If Sandra Bullock can personally commit to donating $1 million of her own money to Harvey relief, it shouldn't be hard for Trump to do the same. But he won't, unless he's publicly shamed into it and even then, he has a very high tolerance.

Wrong. The evidence is there in the filings with the IRS. Prove that your bizarre scenario of individuals and corporations donating to the Trump Foundation in place of payments owed to Trump personally is real.

its_baddude wrote:

DACA people are not being arrested unless they commit crimes. Again, you are making stuff up. In 6 months, if congress does not make a law, they will be asked to leave. At that point, if they don't comply with the law, they will be forcefully moved.

Probably not.

its_baddude wrote:

They are not being treated as criminals. Criminals go to jail. They are just being returned to their country of origin.

They are being treating as criminals when you call them illegal.

Not all criminals go to jail. They get a sentence that would be a punishment, like paying restitution, going to jail, doing community service, etc.

Their punishment would be to send them somewhere they don't want to be.

look a liberal wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

As borders are closed, economic activity declines.

As no-cost labor dries up, supplies tighten and economic activity declines.

As trade agreements aren't made, economic activity declines.

As nothing gets done at the policy level, economic activity declines.

Drip. Drip. Drip. Drip.

You go on ahead and fear someone that doesn't look like you.

uhmmm.. yea sure asshat, thats why the economy is booming and the border is tight like few before

the border was tight under obama and the economy under obama was exactly the same as it is now.

eric a blair wrote:

look a liberal wrote:

uhmmm.. yea sure asshat, thats why the economy is booming and the border is tight like few before

the border was tight under obama and the economy under obama was exactly the same as it is now.

I take it back - the economy was better under obama. There has been a clear falloff in job creation under Trump. This guy is a job killer.

foo fighter wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

These children have done nothing illegal. It is wrong to treat them as criminals when it was only their parents who broke the law.

Since the beginning of time, children have suffered due to bad decisions of their parents, who broke the law & put kids in harms way. They are no strangers to the culture of their parents. Don't believe the hysteria & lies.

So you are saying that we should, as a matter of national policy, punish people for their parent's crimes. That's about as un-American as you can get.

foo fighter wrote:

I get the impression that the libs here have no idea of the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Trump continues to undo Obama's train wrecks, one day at a time.

We all know the difference.

The question is what to do about it.

Congress was happy with the Dreamers being left alone and staying here.

The Democrats liked the resolution as is.

The Republicans were fine with them being left alone in practice while they simultaneously could blame Obama for them being here from a political angle.

Now Trump screwed over the Dreamers and the Republicans.

He sent Sessions out to make the unpopular announcement. Jeff doesn't care. He's appointed now, not elected. And can retire easily.

Now the Republicans are either forced to write Obama's order into law or let it go and piss a lot of people off. Neither is a good look for them.

And Trump will take the political heat as well. Self inflicted wound again.

“Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do),” Trump wrote. “If they can’t, I will revisit the issue!”

What is Trump's message on this?

So confusing.

By rescinding Obama's order, it looks like Trump doesn't want DACA.

But this tweet by him looks like he does want DACA.

WTF?

Here is my analogy:

You have person strapped to a conveyor belt that is off but leads to an active wood chipper.

Trump walks into the room and turns the conveyor belt on.

Then he walks out and says he really wants someone else to save that person.

Outside of that room there are a bunch of firefighters at work putting out fires that he set all over the place.

L L wrote:

“Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do),” Trump wrote. “If they can’t, I will revisit the issue!”

What is Trump's message on this?

So confusing.

By rescinding Obama's order, it looks like Trump doesn't want DACA.

But this tweet by him looks like he does want DACA.

WTF?

Here is my analogy:

You have person strapped to a conveyor belt that is off but leads to an active wood chipper.

Trump walks into the room and turns the conveyor belt on.

Then he walks out and says he really wants someone else to save that person.

Outside of that room there are a bunch of firefighters at work putting out fires that he set all over the place.

it's a power play against congress. If Congress fixes DACA, Trump gets credit for leading Congress.

If Congress f's up again with DACA, then Trump can point and say 'hah! stupid congress. Only I can save this nation.'

I get your point but in order to get credit for leading Congress you must tell them what you want out of this. And be clear about it.

He surely isn't doing that.

And if Congress drops the ball on this, he can point at them all he wants but everyone can point right back at him and show that he set the termination in progress.

People blame and credit the president as a default on everything that happens under their term.

DACA failure would be very easy to blame on him since he actually took action to end it.

And what is this "revisit" caveat he wrote?

Will he himself kick the can if nothing happens in 6 months?

In the meantime, there's talk of the boarder will as a bargaining chip.

Republicans may say we'll make DACA law if Dems give votes for a boarder wall.

But Dems have leverage here as DACA is widely popular outside of the Breitbart crowd.