Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

... and add Caitlyn is a diehard republican.

Hello boys. Welcome to Trumpist hell.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/04/trump-russia-investigations-congress-242256

Trump ending DACA?

So a girl comes into the US illegally at age 3. Brought by her parents.

Then has siblings born here later.

Now she's 23.

She has to be deported. Her siblings stay here.

And if she has a baby born here, the baby can stay but she has to go?

Or is this an anchor baby that keeps her here?

L L wrote:

Trump ending DACA?

So a girl comes into the US illegally at age 3. Brought by her parents.

Then has siblings born here later.

Now she's 23.

She has to be deported. Her siblings stay here.

And if she has a baby born here, the baby can stay but she has to go?

Or is this an anchor baby that keeps her here?

my guess is that congress will keep DACA but the job killing right wing repubs will tie in some immigration restriction.

all in all I think it's best to get immigration policy out of the white house and into the capitol building. But the crazy right wing will wreck the economy if given half a chance. They really want to shrink the workforce and slow growth. Nuts.

eric a blair wrote:

Hello boys. Welcome to Trumpist hell.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/04/trump-russia-investigations-congress-242256

LOL. Whoa! This is like the 7th "more serious" phase. Love it.

But they're already laying the groundwork for the big NOTHING that comes from all this BS... just as expected...

"Top Democrat Adam Schiff of California has repeatedly said the committee’s goal is to produce a single, bipartisan report detailing Russia’s efforts to sway the presidential election, whether the Trump campaign was involved, and what can be done to stop future efforts by foreign powers to influence U.S. elections. But Schiff earlier this week expressed doubts about whether the committee can accomplish this goal, suggesting that it could end up producing separate Republican and Democratic reports.

If that happened, he told USA Today, “then Americans will have to read both reports and decide which one to believe. And that is far less than ideal."

eric a blair wrote:

L L wrote:

Trump ending DACA?

So a girl comes into the US illegally at age 3. Brought by her parents.

Then has siblings born here later.

Now she's 23.

She has to be deported. Her siblings stay here.

And if she has a baby born here, the baby can stay but she has to go?

Or is this an anchor baby that keeps her here?

my guess is that congress will keep DACA but the job killing right wing repubs will tie in some immigration restriction.

all in all I think it's best to get immigration policy out of the white house and into the capitol building. But the crazy right wing will wreck the economy if given half a chance. They really want to shrink the workforce and slow growth. Nuts.

I could probably look this up somewhere, but was there ever a program in place to allow underage illegal immigrants a path to citizenship? I always thought that would be a decent solution to this issue. While I suppose you are rewarding people who come illegally, you are also recognizing that it wasn't really their choice. Given that the country has probably spent money on their education, health care, etc. you may as well get some return on the "investment" by keeping them here.

several times 'amnesty' has been offered to illegals - to put them on a path to citizenship. That's probably what you are thinking of. It wasn't about underage people - just people who have led good lives in the US but aren't here legally.

hey, enjoy the coming headlines and images of republicans testifying in front of congress! They'll be all 'oh I don't remember' but you and I know that they are faking.

And the Mueller probe continues...some say that by the end of the year something will come of that. Sit tight!

Right. It's important to keep this straight.

* The congressional committee reports are about protecting our election infrastructure.

* The Mueller probe is about criminality.

Schiff is correct that if Republicans and Democrats release different reports then it will hurt our ability to safeguard our elections.

I wouldn't expect congress to take the lead in bringing Trump down. They will leave that to the special prosecutor for now.

L L wrote:

Trump ending DACA?

So a girl comes into the US illegally at age 3. Brought by her parents.

Then has siblings born here later.

Now she's 23.

She has to be deported. Her siblings stay here.

And if she has a baby born here, the baby can stay but she has to go?

Or is this an anchor baby that keeps her here?

Such a child cannot break the law. Their parents, yes.

The reason DACA was created by Obama was that Republicans refused to address the above issue out of political spite. Now you are seeing many of those Republicans realize the error they made.

DACA is supported by a large percentage of Democrats, and about one-half of Republicans. Trump is trying to appease a dwindling base. That is his error. Congress will put DACA back. Trump will then do something else; something ignorant as usual.

This "master negotiator" hasn't led on any single issue since becoming president. I can't think of a single time where Trump used the power of persuasion to get people behind him and get something done.

Trump never leads on any issue. He's not a leader.

Fat hurts wrote:

Child Laws wrote:

Such a child cannot break the law. Their parents, yes.

The reason DACA was created by Obama was that Republicans refused to address the above issue out of political spite. Now you are seeing many of those Republicans realize the error they made.

DACA is supported by a large percentage of Democrats, and about one-half of Republicans. Trump is trying to appease a dwindling base. That is his error. Congress will put DACA back. Trump will then do something else; something ignorant as usual.

This "master negotiator" hasn't led on any single issue since becoming president. I can't think of a single time where Trump used the power of persuasion to get people behind him and get something done.

Trump never leads on any issue. He's not a leader.

He's appropriately putting the responsibility on Congress here. How many election cycles have you heard about "immigration reform"? And how much has changed? This is beautiful. And it puts all these politicians that just want to kick the can and protect their jobs in a tough spot.

Perfect decision wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

This "master negotiator" hasn't led on any single issue since becoming president. I can't think of a single time where Trump used the power of persuasion to get people behind him and get something done.

Trump never leads on any issue. He's not a leader.

He's appropriately putting the responsibility on Congress here. How many election cycles have you heard about "immigration reform"? And how much has changed? This is beautiful. And it puts all these politicians that just want to kick the can and protect their jobs in a tough spot.

I don't think it's a perfect decision at all. Congress could still choose to do nothing on DACA and that's probably what will happen. There is almost no pressure on congress to change this right now.

It's completely up to Trump to rescind Obama's policy or leave it alone. In other words, Trump's tactic probably won't work.

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Fat hurts wrote:

Perfect decision wrote:[/b

He's appropriately putting the responsibility on Congress here. How many election cycles have you heard about "immigration reform"? And how much has changed? This is beautiful. And it puts all these politicians that just want to kick the can and protect their jobs in a tough spot.

I don't think it's a perfect decision at all. Congress could still choose to do nothing on DACA and that's probably what will happen. There is almost no pressure on congress to change this right now.

It's completely up to Trump to rescind Obama's policy or leave it alone. In other words, Trump's tactic probably won't work.

Depends on what the purpose of the tactic is.

Please remember that the actual purpose of ALL of Trump's actions is to push all credit to Trump and all blame to others (makes no difference who 'others' are).

So, this tactic will work out brilliantly:

Congress acts: People are happy - Trump takes credit. People unhappy - Blame "The Swamp".

Congress does not act: Blame "The Swamp".

Looks nearly fool-proof to me.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Exactly. Dems don't care one bit about "Dreamers"- they're just desperate for the votes they have gradually lost from the middle class over the last few election cycles.

Great to hear your personal aspect to this as well. And great posts from you over the last 2 years.

Since I believe you were one of the posters that predicted Trump winning from 2015... If I can ask, what region of the country are you from? Is it a state that is solidly blue or red, or a swing state?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Ummm . . . hooray for you on being "first generation latino". Not quite sure how that is relevant to anything. But perhaps you are just Flagpoling - trying to make the thread about you rather than about the topic on hand.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Illegal is the word you use. It is not the word to describe the people.

People cannot be illegal.

They can commit an illegal act, but they cannot be illegal.

A person brought here as a child illegally is not an illegal person nor are they a person that committed an illegal act.

I think all of us that are concerned about DACA are simultaneously concerned about homeless veterans as well as other homeless people.

I Think wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Silly Democrats continue to smear opponents as "anti-immigrant" while intentionally omitting the word ILLEGAL. If you're concerned about DACA, but have never once worried about 50,000+ Homeless United States Military Veterans, please check yourself.

I'm first generation latino and my parents came here LEGALLY.

MAGA!!!

Ummm . . . hooray for you on being "first generation latino". Not quite sure how that is relevant to anything. But perhaps you are just Flagpoling - trying to make the thread about you rather than about the topic on hand.

WHOA WHOA WHOA- Please don't confuse being self-centered with FLAGPOLING.

Everyone here knows that "Flagpoling" is "epicly, massively, spectacularly failing at something..... especially while being 100% confident right up to the exact moment of said epic fail."