Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

itsbaddude wrote:

Trump border wall funded today. 5 democrats voted for it.

Winning?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/344214-house-approves-spending-bill-with-funds-for-trumps-border-wall

you ah didn't take civics,. did you? Or you just like to lie? which is it? maybe you just forgot how the US gov't works.

the border wall was not funded. The House passed a spending bill. It now goes to the senate. Nothing is funded. Dems are likley to block it in the senate.

here, look, from the same story you linked to:

The inclusion of funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall, which fully meets Trump’s budget request, makes it likely that Senate Democrats will block the spending package when it moves to the upper chamber.

Switz Swerving wrote:

I don't respond to garbage little kid posts, would you?

^FAKE POST

Switz Swerving wrote:

Oddly, I went to school with a guy named Jeff Wigand, I swear on it, although I doubt that's your real name.

Even Odder. I went to school with a runner dude named Switz Swerving. Everyone picked on him. He was the runt of the school.

I don't know the validity of this graph. However, are we looking at the same graph?I see 49% want Obamacare repealed.

Moderators and Site Owners Please do an IP check on Blitz Blerving and ban him. My story is true and I'm the same poster from the page before with my original post. I just reported his post and would ask you to please permanently ban him from this site. That's the only wish that I will ask of you before I have no strength to post on this site anymore. Please ban that poster forever. Thank you for you consideration.

Blitz Blerving wrote:

Switz Swerving wrote:

I don't respond to garbage little kid posts, would you?

^FAKE POST

note my use of the word 'immediately' 20% want immediate repeal. More want repeal eventually. O'care is around 55/45% approval/disapproval overall.

itsbaddude wrote:

I don't know the validity of this graph. However, are we looking at the same graph?

I see 49% want Obamacare repealed.

eric a blair wrote:

I posted the source. You want me to go find it again? Ok.

And who is calling you names or attacking you? I suggested you get your talking apoints from right wing radio. Is that true? Or Fox? Becaause clealry if you are not aware that the ACA is a fairly popular program, you aren't getting real news - you're just getting commentary.

here. only 20% want an immediate repeal of o'care. Live with it.

http://usa.inquirer.net/896/20-americans-back-repeal-obamacare-no-replacement

Maybe, maybe not. They can always bribe a few Democrats running for reelection! That always seems to work.

eric a blair wrote:

itsbaddude wrote:

Trump border wall funded today. 5 democrats voted for it.

Winning?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/344214-house-approves-spending-bill-with-funds-for-trumps-border-wall

you ah didn't take civics,. did you? Or you just like to lie? which is it? maybe you just forgot how the US gov't works.

the border wall was not funded. The House passed a spending bill. It now goes to the senate. Nothing is funded. Dems are likley to block it in the senate.

here, look, from the same story you linked to:

The inclusion of funding for a U.S.-Mexico border wall, which fully meets Trump’s budget request, makes it likely that Senate Democrats will block the spending package when it moves to the upper chamber.

itsbaddude wrote:

I don't know the validity of this graph. However, are we looking at the same graph?

I see 49% want Obamacare repealed.

eric a blair wrote:

I posted the source. You want me to go find it again? Ok.

And who is calling you names or attacking you? I suggested you get your talking apoints from right wing radio. Is that true? Or Fox? Becaause clealry if you are not aware that the ACA is a fairly popular program, you aren't getting real news - you're just getting commentary.

here. only 20% want an immediate repeal of o'care. Live with it.

http://usa.inquirer.net/896/20-americans-back-repeal-obamacare-no-replacement

The graph shows:

47% - No, Should not vote to repeal. This means that 47% of the population thinks that O-Care is a good solution that should be tweaked as necessary to continue to meet the needs of Americans for some time to come (nothing is forever).

28% - Repeal after (or at the same time as) a better alternative is in place. This means that 28% of the population thinks that O-Care is better than what came before (otherwise, why not repeal it immediately?) but that we can and should do substantially better in the very near future.

20% - Repeal immediately. This means that 20% think that no O-Care (i.e., no national health care law at all) is better than O-Care. We are better off without it even if nothing replaces it (i.e., go back to status quo 2008).

All of this, of course, assumes that people think about what they are saying (a very unsafe assumption, I know).

If you all ain't familiar with Damon Young and VerySmartBrothas, you should be. It's good stuff.

http://verysmartbrothas.com/donald-trump-is-just-a-white-man-allowed-and-encouraged-to-be-as-white-as-he-wants-to-be/

I will throw a Bad Wiggins here:28% - Repeal after (or at the same time as) a better alternative is in place. This means that 28% of the population thinks that O-Care is better than what came before (otherwise, why not repeal it immediately?) but that we can and should do substantially better in the very near future. or28% - The current plan sucks. We distrust the government so much we want to make sure that the new plan is actually better. But go ahead and come up with a new plan immediately! Else, what not say don't repeal.

Sorry, but your alternative interpretation doesn't make any logical sense.

Of course, you can assume that respondents are not logical. I am making the opposite assumption - that they are by and large logical beings.

vivalarepublica wrote:

If you all ain't familiar with Damon Young and VerySmartBrothas, you should be. It's good stuff.

http://verysmartbrothas.com/donald-trump-is-just-a-white-man-allowed-and-encouraged-to-be-as-white-as-he-wants-to-be/

Excruciatingly lame.

"Whiteness" this and "whiteness" that. About as valid, truth-based and helpful as folks yapping about "n!ggers" this and "n!ggers" that.

Sorry, but I'll pass on the racism, thank you very much. Doesn't matter to me which direction it is in. It is, at its core, anti-human. And deserves no respect.

Five Republicans voted no. Who bribed them? That really did work.

itsbaddude wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. They can always bribe a few Democrats running for reelection! That always seems to work.

If you have prostrate cancer that means that because of Obamacare you legally cannot be denied coverage because of this condition if you change change jobs or try to get coverage on the open market.

Repeal means that protection goes away.

That protection did not exist before Obamacare.

Let's say you had to stop working but your wife worked.

Before, you wouldn't qualify for Medicaid because of her income.

Under the ACA, Medicaid was expanded to a higher income level and subsidies are also offered that weren't there before.

And the law means coverage cannot be too skimpy and you wouldn't have to go bankrupt getting treatment.

I know all that doesn't help when the treatment isn't working.

Hopefully there will be a positive turnaround.

If the worse happens we wouldn't want the creditors to go after your family because of a dropped insurance plan.

Repeal could give that power to the insurers.

The proper number is 75% (47+28) want a healthcare plan in place, tweaked ACA or rebranded ACA. In the end the ACA will be same basic plan that was developed in MA by Romney and the state gov there. The only other option is single-payer, something that will require years to transition into the market. So, no sudden changes to the existing healthcare system--repeal will never happen unless the Republican party is will to die a permanent death.

itsbaddude wrote:

I will throw a Bad Wiggins here:

28% - Repeal after (or at the same time as) a better alternative is in place. This means that 28% of the population thinks that O-Care is better than what came before (otherwise, why not repeal it immediately?) but that we can and should do substantially better in the very near future.

You guys read graphs like you read polls. No wonder you think you're winning.

75 % wrote:

The proper number is 75% (47+28) want a healthcare plan in place, tweaked ACA or rebranded ACA. In the end the ACA will be same basic plan that was developed in MA by Romney and the state gov there. The only other option is single-payer, something that will require years to transition into the market. So, no sudden changes to the existing healthcare system--repeal will never happen unless the Republican party is will to die a permanent death.

itsbaddude wrote:

I will throw a Bad Wiggins here:

28% - Repeal after (or at the same time as) a better alternative is in place. This means that 28% of the population thinks that O-Care is better than what came before (otherwise, why not repeal it immediately?) but that we can and should do substantially better in the very near future.

Ah, the dude who was trying to claim 20% + 28% = 48% to inch over the 47% number.I realize you are too stupid to understand that 75% of the graph want healthcare, and DO NOT want repeal. But, that doesn't agree with your 20% demand you so desperately want. My guess is: you are HardLoper who only cares about not paying 1¢ for his healthcare.

itsbaddude wrote:

You guys read graphs like you read polls. No wonder you think you're winning.

75 % wrote:

The proper number is 75% (47+28) want a healthcare plan in place, tweaked ACA or rebranded ACA. In the end the ACA will be same basic plan that was developed in MA by Romney and the state gov there. The only other option is single-payer, something that will require years to transition into the market. So, no sudden changes to the existing healthcare system--repeal will never happen unless the Republican party is will to die a permanent death.

Getting healthcare right is important for the future and for our kids.

We have this new gig economy.

Young people don't all have full time jobs but work multiple part time jobs - like driving for Uber and freelance work.

That means no main employer giving cheap healthcare.

A system that extends healthcare coverage to people that don't get employer coverage is more important than ever.

The Republicans don't have a plan for this.

I'm not going debate the minutiae of polls but we do know that help with healthcare is now expected.

Obama delivered it and Trump campaigned to make it even better.

The proposed bills do not make it better.

L L wrote:

Getting healthcare right is important for the future and for our kids.

We have this new gig economy.

Young people don't all have full time jobs but work multiple part time jobs - like driving for Uber and freelance work.

That means no main employer giving cheap healthcare.

A system that extends healthcare coverage to people that don't get employer coverage is more important than ever.

Taking a diversion here. We've had a solid 20 years of industrial policy that favors the employer and all we have to show for it is part time jobs.