Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Liberal Flagpole (but don't move next to me) wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Obama had 5 in 8 years, not 4 -- perhaps keep your yap shut unless you know something. But, they left of their own accord to go immediately pursue other interests like running for Mayor of Chicago, etc. Not equivalent at all...Trump gets pissed and pushes them out the door because he is an a$$hole.

You are in denial.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

You bend everything Trump does to fit your liberal agenda. Being wrong is synonymous with being----Flagpole, the worst percentage predictor in Letsrun's History. When he realizes he's wrong, that he's put his foot in his mouth again, he starts with the excuses. Hillary was a thief and was not convicted. Trump gets the same rules.

I do not have a "liberal agenda". My agenda is only to get rid of a criminal in the White House. He ALSO happens to be an a$$hole, but it is the criminality that is the issue.

I have made no excuses. There is a difference between how the Chiefs of Staff left the Obama Administration and how they have left The Orange One's as I correctly pointed out.

I do not have evidence to show that Hillary was a thief, and in fact have evidence showing she was investigated and found NOT to be one. If you do, then go hire a lawyer and have at her. I am for justice no matter who it affects. I also don't believe Democrats are above the fray and incapable of bad actions...this is why I supported Conyers and Franken resigning. I also maintain that ANY President is under a microscope (and SHOULD be) so that if Hillary had won, it is POSSIBLE that some crimes of her would have been unearthed. If that had happened, I would be for any appropriate punishment for her...BUT it didn't. These bad actions and crimes from Trump HAVE been brought to light, and he IS the President, and that is unacceptable for a President to behave that way.

The SDNY has determined that Trump committed two felonies. Michael Cohen is going to serve prison time for this, and the SDNY has determined that Trump directed Cohen to commit said felonies. Legal experts have said that the SDNY would not make this determination on Cohen's word alone. Federal prosecutors in general are 90% successful, and supposedly the SDNY has an even better conviction rate.

I maintain that Trump will be indicted for these crimes. It will either be a sealed indictment so that he can still be prosecuted even if he wins a second term so that the 5-year statute of limitations doesn't run out, OR he will face a federal indictment simply when his term ends (and he is not re-elected) or he is forced out of office, OR he will be indicted by federal prosecutors while a sitting President DESPITE a DOJ guideline against doing that, OR he will be indicted by a state...likely New York...which doesn't have to follow the DOJ guidelines.

His biggest hope AGAINST indictment is if, as Neal Katyal has suggested, prosecutors come to some agreement with him that he resign to avoid jail time. Others here have challenged me on that saying there is no mechanism for that, but Neal Katyal is a former Solicitor General, and he is suggesting it, so it must be possible. Also, Clinton arranged with prosecutors NOT to be indicted after his term in office was over.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Surefire Winner wrote:

agip wrote:

disagree - Dems and Is are so hungry for leadership that they will latch on to Beto. I mean have you seen his talk about kneeling being a American protest? It is bloody genius. And he comes off as authentic, not a phony like HRC. Beto won a straw poll yesterday - he's the front runner as far as I am concerned.

Policy just doesn't matter right now.

Beto picks a black veep and it's all over.

Beto-Booker? Beto - Abrams?

Beto booker sounds pretty darn good.

Beto-Harris 2020.

Take it to the bank my friend. It's an unbeatable combination.

Maybe...but I just don't see Harris as a VP type. She seems to like to run her own show.

But yeah, if she is on board then kapow that would be a dream ticket. No freaking way the Rs win MI PA with that ticket - the black vote would be huge. And who knows - maybe even FL would be back in play.

but Booker doesnt' seem comfortable in the Senate - he's looking for something else I think. He might be a better VP.

I appreciate the info. I will look into it.

N. Tesla wrote:

how do you charge your car if you live in an apartment?

how far can you go on a charge with a large electric vehicle? i have 5 kids and would need something that seats 7.

More and more apartment complexes are adding chargers. But if you don't have one at yours there is plenty of public charging these days. Much of it is free. Check plugshare.com to find all the chargers in your area.

For seating 7, your best bet is probably the Chrysler Pacifica plugin hybrid minivan. You get 33 miles of electric range. A gas engine kicks in if you need more than that.

agip wrote:

Surefire Winner wrote:

Beto-Harris 2020.

Take it to the bank my friend. It's an unbeatable combination.

Maybe...but I just don't see Harris as a VP type. She seems to like to run her own show.

But yeah, if she is on board then kapow that would be a dream ticket. No freaking way the Rs win MI PA with that ticket - the black vote would be huge. And who knows - maybe even FL would be back in play.

but Booker doesnt' seem comfortable in the Senate - he's looking for something else I think. He might be a better VP.

No. Harris is the better black candidate. Booker took the theatrics too far with his failed Sparticus moment,

We'd probably win 400 electoral votes with a Beto-Harris ticket vs a Trump-Pence.

Surefire Winner wrote:

agip wrote:

Maybe...but I just don't see Harris as a VP type. She seems to like to run her own show.

But yeah, if she is on board then kapow that would be a dream ticket. No freaking way the Rs win MI PA with that ticket - the black vote would be huge. And who knows - maybe even FL would be back in play.

but Booker doesnt' seem comfortable in the Senate - he's looking for something else I think. He might be a better VP.

No. Harris is the better black candidate. Booker took the theatrics too far with his failed Sparticus moment,

We'd probably win 400 electoral votes with a Beto-Harris ticket vs a Trump-Pence.

if she would do it, is my point. I'm not sure she would do it.

VP is a career ender, unless you think you can be president next.

But that is very, very rare in recent times.

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

The average price for a new car in the US is $35,742.

With the tax credit, you can get it for around 28K. That's the 2017 Motor Trend Car of the Year for only 28K. You can also buy a used one for much less than that.

You can get a beautiful well maintained Ur-Quattro for 35k right now. I know where my money would go.

Also, average new car payment is like 520 a month or something stupid. How do average people afford that? They don't. Get 'em Flagpole! Talk some sense into the average American

In today's dollars, I would not pay $35,000 for a vehicle. I am admittedly not a car guy though. People have their own interests. I spend money on music gear and traveling. I will say though that too many people spend too much for their cars.

agip wrote:

Racket wrote:

Young Republicans all seem to think Tom Cotton is going to lead them to the promised land.

I like Beto's platform but he needed to win Texas to have a chance in the presidential race.

disagree - Dems and Is are so hungry for leadership that they will latch on to Beto. I mean have you seen his talk about kneeling being a American protest? It is bloody genius. And he comes off as authentic, not a phony like HRC. Beto won a straw poll yesterday - he's the front runner as far as I am concerned.

Policy just doesn't matter right now.

Beto picks a black veep and it's all over.

Beto-Booker? Beto - Abrams?

Beto booker sounds pretty darn good.

I agree. That Beto did so well in Texas despite losing is amazing. He is also not super liberal which turns off many middle of the road voters.

I'm not ready to pick someone to back just yet (and I might not until the General election, and even then I might do so half-heartedly. We just can't have Trump in there again./\

Fat hurts wrote:

N. Tesla wrote:

how do you charge your car if you live in an apartment?

how far can you go on a charge with a large electric vehicle? i have 5 kids and would need something that seats 7.

More and more apartment complexes are adding chargers. But if you don't have one at yours there is plenty of public charging these days. Much of it is free. Check plugshare.com to find all the chargers in your area.

For seating 7, your best bet is probably the Chrysler Pacifica plugin hybrid minivan. You get 33 miles of electric range. A gas engine kicks in if you need more than that.

33 miles? total?

thanks for the link. the closest one to me is 26 miles away at a state park. it costs $5 to get into the park and they are only open sunrise to sunset.

Flagpole wrote:

Racket wrote:

You can get a beautiful well maintained Ur-Quattro for 35k right now. I know where my money would go.

Also, average new car payment is like 520 a month or something stupid. How do average people afford that? They don't. Get 'em Flagpole! Talk some sense into the average American

In today's dollars, I would not pay $35,000 for a vehicle. I am admittedly not a car guy though. People have their own interests. I spend money on music gear and traveling. will say though that too many people spend too much for their cars.

I'll say. Middle class people making $80k household income think they should have a $45,000 SUV or two in their garage. This SUV mania is probably the most damaging piece of the American economic scene. it's ridiculous the money people think they should spend on cars.

NO!!!!!!!

This is the attitude that got us Trump. People voted for him because they didn't want HRC. We shouldn't just put someone out there just to because we don't want Trump. We need a true leader.

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

The average price for a new car in the US is $35,742.

With the tax credit, you can get it for around 28K. That's the 2017 Motor Trend Car of the Year for only 28K. You can also buy a used one for much less than that.

You can get a beautiful well maintained Ur-Quattro for 35k right now. I know where my money would go.

Also, average new car payment is like 520 a month or something stupid. How do average people afford that? They don't. Get 'em Flagpole! Talk some sense into the average American

And the total cost of ownership for an EV is much lower than for a comparable gas car. So average people are better off owning an EV.

Again, the average price of a new car is $35,742. So the average American paying an average price already pays more than we are talking about for an EV. And an EV has a much lower ownership cost with almost zero maintenance.

The only scheduled service on my car is to rotate the tires. The whole power train has only 18 moving parts. On a gas car it's 250 to 300 moving parts. So gas cars break a lot more.

I never have to change oil or replace spark plugs, timing belts, brake pads, transmission fluid, coolant, etc.

Not again wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I agree. That Beto did so well in Texas despite losing is amazing. He is also not super liberal which turns off many middle of the road voters.

I'm not ready to pick someone to back just yet (and I might not until the General election, and even then I might do so half-heartedly. We just can't have Trump in there again./\

NO!!!!!!!

This is the attitude that got us Trump. People voted for him because they didn't want HRC. We shouldn't just put someone out there just to because we don't want Trump. We need a true leader.

Beto is a true leader. No one else has that kind of genuine grass roots support. The guy is a rock star. People flew to tx to canvas for him. No one is going to do that for Joe freaking Biden.

N. Tesla wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

More and more apartment complexes are adding chargers. But if you don't have one at yours there is plenty of public charging these days. Much of it is free. Check plugshare.com to find all the chargers in your area.

For seating 7, your best bet is probably the Chrysler Pacifica plugin hybrid minivan. You get 33 miles of electric range. A gas engine kicks in if you need more than that.

33 miles? total?

thanks for the link. the closest one to me is 26 miles away at a state park. it costs $5 to get into the park and they are only open sunrise to sunset.

Actually, to add only 33 miles, you can plug into any 110 volt outlet. That will charge the car to full overnight. So you can do that almost anywhere.

Flagpole wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Hmm, didn't Obama have 4 different chief of staffs during his first term? Talk about turnover.

Again, libs. Trump will continue to enrage and make your heads explode for a very looooonnnng time- Jan 2025

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Obama had 5 in 8 years, not 4 -- perhaps keep your yap shut unless you know something. But, they left of their own accord to go immediately pursue other interests like running for Mayor of Chicago, etc. Not equivalent at all...Trump gets pissed and pushes them out the door because he is an a$$hole.

You are in denial.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

TRUPMERS bend everything Trump does to fit THEIR RACIST agenda. Being wrong is synonymous with being----TRUMPERS, the worst DEPLORABLES in Letsrun's History. When THEY realizes THEY'RE wrong, that THEY put THEIR COLLECTIVE footS in THEIR mouthS again, THEY starts with the excuses. LOOK SQUIRREL! wWE KNOW TRUMP IS a thief and WILL BE convicted. Trump GOES TO JAIL. THE END.

Rich dad poor dad wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Tesla still says it is coming out with its own 35K version of the Model 3 in 4 to 5 months.

Starts at $35K?

Like I said - only for the rich.

Your car must attract the ladies like an anti-magnet.

agip wrote:

Beto is a true leader. No one else has that kind of genuine grass roots support. The guy is a rock star. People flew to tx to canvas for him. No one is going to do that for Joe freaking Biden.

I agree but once again, HE LOST!

He's young and charismatic like Obama was in 2007, but unlike Obama he lost his Senate race. Look, if he drummed up legendary support in Texas and still lost to TED CRUZ (the fourth or fifth most hated person in America probably), then why would he be expected to carry his home state in an presidential election? What about Florida? Other swing states? I like him, but like I said, he had to win that race in Texas to have a shot. Not saying I wouldn't vote for him in 2020, but he'd lose.

Little by little, the "But, Russia" hoax continues to fall apart.

Remember how many of you on the Left believed the dossier was full of facts?...oh, and that the FISA process based on that very dossier wasn't a fraud? Open your eyes.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/12/11/mueller_files_undercut_cohens_infamous_appointment_in_prague.html

Zero collusion.

Zero obstruction.

Mueller NEVER.

Clownpole FOREVER.

Democrats lose again