Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

1100 wrote:

“Let that sink in. Trump's campaign chairman is GUILTY of CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.”

I noticed you've been giving credit for some of those quotes. That one was mine.

For Trumpers, it still hasn't sunk in.

Some Things Should Be Obvious wrote:

1) Caring about Melania and caring about the personal consequences for Trump if Melania was to find out are two entirely different things.

Nope. The attempt to hide the affairs are part of Trump's plan to steal the election. Melania is nothing.

Make America Great Again wrote:

WTF^n wrote:

So, ignorance of the law is a legitimate defense when caught breaking the law?

That's not the case with 99% of the time. But campaign finance law is different. Read the AP article I linked above.

As usual Gary, you don't know what you are talking about. It seems you are hung up on this quote from the article:

For a criminal prosecution, the Justice Department must prove that a defendant knowingly violated campaign finance laws.

This does not mean that Tiny needed to know what he did was illegal. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse (except in some rare circumstances like if the law was never made public).

The quote means they would have to prove that he knowingly paid the money to influence the election. If he thought he was paying the hush money to protect his family then that would not be illegal.

* But there are tapes.

* And there is the testimony of Cohen.

* And there is the fact that the payments were made in a way specifically intended to shield it from campaign finance law.

* And the payments to both women happened right before the election.

* And the adultery happened a long, long time before the election without anyone seeing the need to pay hush money earlier.

Tiny knew what the hush money was for. He knew it was to help win the election. So, he is guilty.

Our president is a felon. There is no doubt about it and no plea of ignorance is going to fly in a court of law.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Ya know he’s right Flagpole. Impeachment is pretty narrow. So far the only impeachable offense is the still unproven and hard to prove obstruction because it occurred WHILE he was president. Same for any “collusion”because it occurred before he took office, hence all the talk about “can you indict a sitting president?”

You can’t impeach someone for offenses that occurred before he took office.

Trump will serve all 4 years and will run against a Democrat and maybe even another Republican in 2020. He will have tons of trouble winning just due to the volume of talking points and tweets that his opponent can hit on and if the economy keeps on its current path and stagnates he’s a dead fish. Obamacare is still law and the Wall has not been built by Mexico.

Alan

Fair assessment by Alan. We do, however, have our first indication of alleged ties of the current POTUS to potential criminal offenses in regards to Russia. My expectation is that there is probably more there but it will be too involved for the majority of Americans to spend the time trying to understand it. One thing the impeachment of Nixon had was Nixon's voice on tape. There will be nothing such as that with a clear cut impeachable fence with Trump. This will allow his supporters to "interpret" Mueller's findings and make their case against any claims by the Special Prosecutor. Trumps minions will believe this no matter the evidence. The Dems best chance is to just hammer away at this evidence and, for crapse sake, put a good candidate in front of the American people in 2020.

Make America Great Again wrote:

And once the impeachment is defeated, it blows up in Dems' faces.

Here's some complete nonsense. The chances of a successful impeachment of Trump is very remote however it has at least as much, if not more, chance of blowing up in the Republicans faces.

Make America Great Again wrote:

Yeah, COHEN knew it was illegal. That's why he pleaded guilty. It doesn't prove that Trump also knew it was illegal.

So you're admitting the POTUS is a complete idiot?

He may be but lots of luck proving that one counselor.

Make America Great Again wrote:

He was trying to hide it from Melania, not law enforcement officers. I guess you don't understand how marriage works.

You really are the dumbest mofo yet to appear in this thread. You really believe this?

Fat hurts wrote:

1100 wrote:

“Let that sink in. Trump's campaign chairman is GUILTY of CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.”

I noticed you've been giving credit for some of those quotes. That one was mine.

For Trumpers, it still hasn't sunk in.

CORRECT!

I will try to be more consistent in giving credit where it is due.

caring wrote:

Some Things Should Be Obvious wrote:

1) Caring about Melania and caring about the personal consequences for Trump if Melania was to find out are two entirely different things.

Nope. The attempt to hide the affairs are part of Trump's plan to steal the election. Melania is nothing.

So, you are claiming that "caring about Melania and caring about the personal consequences for Trump if Melania was to find out are the same thing."

Your stupidity is duly noted.

Fat hurts wrote:

Make America Great Again wrote:

That's not the case with 99% of the time. But campaign finance law is different. Read the AP article I linked above.

As usual Gary, you don't know what you are talking about. It seems you are hung up on this quote from the article:

"For a criminal prosecution, the Justice Department must prove that a defendant knowingly violated campaign finance laws."

This does not mean that Tiny needed to know what he did was illegal. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse (except in some rare circumstances like if the law was never made public).

The quote means they would have to prove that he knowingly paid the money to influence the election. . .

But Lying Gary is a Constitutional scholar!

Seriously, that's really funny if that is what Lying Gary is hanging his hat on. It appears that he does not understand basic English.

Flagpole wrote:

Quality posters only wrote:

Laughing out loud at you!!!!!! The Clintons stole millions of dollars. And??? They are no different than Donald Trump. You've been babbling for over a year, same garbage every day. Give it a rest tubs!

But Hillary!!! Deflection, brother. If you believe she has gotten away with something, go hire a lawyer and have at it. I HAVE been saying the same thing for over a year, and that just shows that I was prescient, because it is all coming true.

What Hillary has ever done or not done has no bearing on what Trump has done.

Flagpole confuses deflection with pure corruption, which he supported. What a bungo!

He's lost it again wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

But Hillary!!! Deflection, brother. If you believe she has gotten away with something, go hire a lawyer and have at it. I HAVE been saying the same thing for over a year, and that just shows that I was prescient, because it is all coming true.

What Hillary has ever done or not done has no bearing on what Trump has done.

Flagpole confuses deflection with pure corruption, which he supported. What a bungo!

Jamin, are you sober?

STSBO wrote:

Make America Great Again wrote:

Why would McConnell refuse to allow a vote? He knows Dems don't have enough votes. I'd be surprised if more than a few Republicans betrayed the President. And once the impeachment is defeated, the Democrats will face a yuge backlash.

And once again, for the 1,758th time you show your true colors.

One can only betray someone to whom one owes their allegiance. Senators owe their allegiance to the United States of America, not to Donald Trump. But I know that this is a concept that escapes you entirely.

As has been said many times, Trumpettes, (and yes, you are one, Lying Gary), are NOT Americans!

CORRECT! We know now that Trump committed two felonies. Obstruction of Justice, Perjury, and Conspiracy against the United States of America is to follow, and perhaps witness tampering. Those are the things I believe will be involved in the impeachment process. Beyond that, either later from Mueller or from other DOJ offices will be money laundering, bank and/or wire fraud, and likely other financial crimes.

The Trump Organization will ultimately be labeled a criminal enterprise, and it will be dissolved...that may take a few years yet.

The totality of what Mueller presents will ultimately be too much for Senate Republicans to back.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

TTH wrote:

Make America Great Again wrote:

And once the impeachment is defeated, it blows up in Dems' faces.

Here's some complete nonsense. The chances of a successful impeachment of Trump is very remote however it has at least as much, if not more, chance of blowing up in the Republicans faces.

Yep and details matter. This impeachment would differ from Clinton’s and Nixon’s and Johnson’s.

Clinton’s blew up because he lied about an affair, something that affected his personal life not his professional one. He also came on national TV and apologized.

Simply committing a felony is not grounds for impeachment. Indictment yes, but impeachment is a political process not a legal one. Lying about hush money isn’t going to do it either.

Lying about ties to Russia or why you fired Comey or if that firing was an obstruction to prevent those ties from seeing the light. Yes those are impeachable.

Alan

43400

"There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign" -- Hope Hicks, 11/11/16

caring wrote:

Some Things Should Be Obvious wrote:

1) Caring about Melania and caring about the personal consequences for Trump if Melania was to find out are two entirely different things.

Nope. The attempt to hide the affairs are part of Trump's plan to steal the election. Melania is nothing.

but Hillary the lying witch lost outright...so who cares?

The bold face truth is Hillary R. Clinton would have been a bigger disaster than Donald J. Trump on his worse day. We all have to admit that. As her own side said, she'll say anything to get elected, and she did---but still lost bigly versus winning in a landslide.

That I do agree with, I just wish Trump would clean it up a bit and do things right, that's all I'm asking for. HRC would have been a HUGE mistake!