Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Is Avenetti still planning on running for POTUS?

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

"Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force."

Another Clownpolian Classic.

When has Trump done something just because it was the right thing to do?

I'm serious. Can you give me an example?

I can give two examples.

The time he gave sanctuary to Grammy Award winning singer Jennifer Hudson after three of her family members were murdered. When Hudson’s mother, brother and nephew were gunned down in Chicago, she put everything on hold for a while. She stayed at Trump Tower to grieve, Trump didn’t charge her a dime and also provided security for her and a few of her family members.

When Sergeant Andrew Tahmooressi was released from a prison in Mexico, Trump sent him a $25,000 check to help get him back on his feet.

Congrats, you have reached "pole" status. From now on, your name is Fatpole.

agip wrote:

for the record, I disagree. Trump has at least some money. He will not want to go to jail for the rest of his life. He will resume his old life.

He will tell us that Hillary ran an elaborate vote fraud operation in between selling uranium to russians, while on lunch breaks from her sex trafficking operation out of the basement of a pizza place...then he will walk.

Into a studio, where he will be a right wing talk show host, which is what he really wants to do.

I don't see how Trump and his family avoid prison unless he stays in office or flees into exile.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

for the record, I disagree. Trump has at least some money. He will not want to go to jail for the rest of his life. He will resume his old life.

He will tell us that Hillary ran an elaborate vote fraud operation in between selling uranium to russians, while on lunch breaks from her sex trafficking operation out of the basement of a pizza place...then he will walk.

Into a studio, where he will be a right wing talk show host, which is what he really wants to do.

I don't see how Trump and his family avoid prison unless he stays in office or flees into exile.

the tax charges will be civil, not criminal. He will pay tens of millions in fines and that will be that.

what other crime do you have in mind? POTUS is a unique position, constitutionally.

I suppose conspiracy against America could work.

bank fraud/money laundering? Very hard to prove, although Democrat Michael Cohen may have something. But statute of limitations.

I think you've been influenced a bit by Bill Maher, who said Trump wouldn't step down.

If he loses the election, there will be a swearing in for the new president on Jan 20, 2021.

Trump will lose authority at that point.

It's not like he can change the locks and block the door.

Trump can go to jail for the same reasons that Manafort is in jail right now for.

L L wrote:

Trump can go to jail for the same reasons that Manafort is in jail right now for.

the statute of limitations will always be a problem convicting trump, since he's had 4 years of presidency to burn down the 5 years.

civil tax fraud doesn't have a statute

I'm njot saying trump will get away without criminal convictions - but I do think that large civil fees are a more likely outcome.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Perhaps I have gone over the deep end. But we will see.

Any normal person would follow the Constitution and leave office when it is time.

I don't think Trump is a normal person. It would be wrong to assume that he would just follow the rules. He's never given me the impression that he cares about following rules or laws unless he is forced to do so.

Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force.

"Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force."

Another Clownpolian Classic.

It's delusion, and it's bizarre.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Perhaps I have gone over the deep end. But we will see.

Any normal person would follow the Constitution and leave office when it is time.

I don't think Trump is a normal person. It would be wrong to assume that he would just follow the rules. He's never given me the impression that he cares about following rules or laws unless he is forced to do so.

Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force.

"Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force."

Another Clownpolian Classic.

??? Don't assign stuff to me that I didn't say, brother. You stick with just what I say about Trump, and we shall see.

Trollminator wrote:

Silliest of Willies wrote:

Now even CNN is admitting it was stupid! Love watching Lib attempts to "get Trump" fall flat- err, you know, FLOP.

So I'm going to change amend your sequence of events:

"Funny how fast news moves nowadays. Just 24 hours ago, it was "Hey look, she was right!"... then it was "Trump owes her $1M!"... then it was "But wait, she's only 1/500th?"... then Cherokee Nation tells her to "just please stop, you are not one of us"... and now, 24 hours later, she's a laughing stock... and finally, they actually ADMIT how stupid it was." HA

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-pocahontas/index.html

Mueller never.

Clownpole forever.

Result for Democrat - you get caught embellishing, you get crucified and probably hit a ceiling

Result for Republican - you lie openly without shame or admittance, you become speaker of the house or President

Those are the standards

Perception is reality with regard to Elizabeth Warren, but a real thinking person would realize that most of us know (especially white people) what our heritage is only because family members told us what it is. In my case for example, I was told from an early age that I was from the Land of Cool. Fortunately a DNA test has confirmed it to be true, so I don't have to wonder.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

"Therefore, Trump will only leave office by force."

Another Clownpolian Classic.

When has Trump done something just because it was the right thing to do?

I'm serious. Can you give me an example?

You have a compelling argument if this was up to Trump only, but it isn't. Trump NEVER does anything because it is the right thing to do. He is of course wrong on Saudi Arabia. Fortunately Graham and Rubio are saying the right things.

Incorrect! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

He (Avenetti) did fail to produce with regard to Kavanaugh, in part because a pissed off Trump wouldn't allow him to...

WTF? The Dems thought that Avenetti was hurting their case against Kavanaugh and knew his claims were bogus.

I said he failed to produce, brother. It is also true though that since Trump wouldn't allow the FBI to talk to Swetnick, we don't 100% know for sure. But, to say for sure that anyone knows his claims were bogus is a bit too far.

Where Avenatti failed to produce is that he said (paraphrased) "We will lay bare for the American people what my client and other witnesses are saying about Judge Kavanaugh this weekend..." He then did not do that. So, either his witnesses didn't pan out or had cold feet or something. He would be disbarred if HE made this all up, and that's not on the table as far as I know.

Fat hurts wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

You are correct about Trump in your description of him. I just can't believe he would possibly stay in office when he either has been voted out or impeached and convicted or a second term ends. He would have to have the military, the Congress, and a whole bunch of other people be on board with that. Just no way.

Yes, he would need the military to be successful. I don't think he will be able to control the military, but he will try.

If he loses in 2020 he will claim that the election was rigged and he will try to stay in power. In that scenario, this ends with Trump being forced from office under military threat. It does not end with him stepping down because that's what the Constitution says.

Watch closely at who is appointed to replace General Mattis.

He might challenge the election results because that's just who he is, but there's a long time between Nov. and the third week of Jan. No way he tries to stay in power after being voted out of office.

He won't step down because the Constitution says so, because to him the Constitution is toilet paper, but he will step down because the consequences to him to try to do otherwise are too great.

Flagpole wrote:

You have a compelling argument if this was up to Trump only, but it isn't. Trump NEVER does anything because it is the right thing to do.

You're either legitimately delusional, or you're a liar. Just a few things that Trump has done over the decades to help people...

He will have a hard time going back to his old life. He has already been shown to be a fraud, so the orange bloom is off the rose. Once he is no longer President, fewer and fewer people will want to do business with him, and the way the Trump Organization is being looked at, he may not be able to run that company again. He has long described himself as the "king of debt", so if forced to sell his assets to pay his debt, he may not be left with much. Considering he likely has gotten a lot of money from Russia and other countries in money laundering schemes, he really might not have much money at all. I don't believe he is a billionaire anymore if he ever was one, and it is quite possible he is dead flat broke. Again, he doesn't own any of his properties outright...it's all on borrowed money...if the reports are to be believed and if his bragging about being the "king of debt" is to be believed (and of course I do have a hard time believing anything Trump says).

Also, nothing more "has been" than a failed President trying to do a radio show. He would get people to turn into Howard Stern to hear him once in a great while, but he would fail in a radio show of his own. Trumpers only like him for what he says he can do for them. They don't actually like HIM. When he has no power to do anything to try to relive them of their victimhood, they won't care what he has to say.

The best failed President ever is of course Jimmy Carter. He became a role model icon because he followed what was in his heart. Trump doesn't have a heart and can not replicated that.

Are you paid for this? wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

You have a compelling argument if this was up to Trump only, but it isn't. Trump NEVER does anything because it is the right thing to do.

You're either legitimately delusional, or you're a liar. Just a few things that Trump has done over the decades to help people...

https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2016/07/donald-trump-heart-of-gold.jpg

this is one of the first times I have disagreed with you, fp. over 8 or more years of dealing with this digital addiction of mine.

People LOVE trump. He is their man. He's been at this for 40+ years - he relies on his charisma to do stuff. Show biz is his natural place, along with sales.

and I disagree with other stuff you wrote above, but I have to get back to werk.

Flagpole wrote:

I said he failed to produce, brother. It is also true though that since Trump wouldn't allow the FBI to talk to Swetnick, we don't 100% know for sure. But, to say for sure that anyone knows his claims were bogus is a bit too far.

NBC investigated her enough. As Ann Coulter summarizes,

His third accuser, our heroine Julie Swetnik, is the woman produced by porn lawyer Michael Avenatti. She claims that she repeatedly attended gang rape parties in the 1980s -- and she saw Brett Kavanaugh there!

An ex-boyfriend says Swetnik once threatened to kill him and his unborn child; she had a restraining order taken out against her; was sued by an employer for engaging in "sexually offensive conduct," making "false and retaliatory allegations" against co-workers and also lying about her educational background and work history.

A Democrat and Emmy-winning meteorologist wrote a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee stating that, soon after he met Swetnik in the 1990s, she proposed group sex to him. Some years later, her own father told him to stay away, citing Swetnik's psychological problems.

She is now the Democrats' leading contender for 2020.

Poor Kate Snow of NBC News thought she had landed the interview of a lifetime when she sat down with Swetnik. Within about three questions, it became clear that she was talking to a lunatic. At that point, most of Snow's energy went into hoping for a building-wide power failure to shut down the cameras.

Of the four witnesses Swetnik provided to NBC, whom she claimed would confirm her story, one denied knowing any Julie Swetnik, one was dead, and two did not respond to the network, perhaps wishing they were dead too.

By the end of the interview, Snow's purse was missing.